I have Candy paired up with Luigi and wonder who can advise what I am likely to get from such a pairing.

Candy is a violet dominant pied

 

and Luigi seems to be green opaline spangle

Luigi is split for Blue

 

So far 5 babies in the nest...two eldest are adopted chicks.

Edited June 24, 200718 yr by **KAZ**

Kaz,There are 32 different combinations.At3.125%.Sky Blue,Cobalt,Dark Green & Lt Green.Spangles, Dom Pie,Opaline & normal & splits of all of the above,

Kaz,There are 32 different combinations.At3.125%.Sky Blue,Cobalt,Dark Green & Lt Green.Spangles, Dom Pie,Opaline & normal & splits of all of the above,

 

I bow to you macka for workn through the combos and dont forget the hidden recessive factors

 

Kaz,There are 32 different combinations.At3.125%.Sky Blue,Cobalt,Dark Green & Lt Green.Spangles, Dom Pie,Opaline & normal & splits of all of the above,

 

I bow to you macka for workn through the combos and dont forget the hidden recessive factors

Edited June 18, 200718 yr by lonebudgie

Lonebudgie,Throwing in a hidden recessive factor.Can get it up to 74 conbinations, but only 8 visaul.

okay......thanks we will have to wait and see. There are two adopted chicks in there and one adopted egg. Meanwhile, upon checking earlier we have 6 babies now in the nest, all healthy and wriggling and four more eggs.

 

 

if they all hatch out I will foster some chicks to other nests.

I can't wait to see the results

I am surprised more member didn't give it a shot on the genetics

I can't wait to see the results

I am surprised more member didn't give it a shot on the genetics :rip:

C'mon Elly. You can work out the genetics then :hap:

Well I was giving others a chance (Laughing out loud)

You know me I am not into all the % stuff

 

All the babies will be green unless the hen is split to blue

 

Violet is an added factor so if she is a SF violet 50% chance the babies blue or green will carry the violet factor, if she is a DF violet then all the babies will carry the violet factor.

 

50% dominant pieds

50% normals

 

50% spangle

50% normals

 

note, I am not doing the combo of spangle opaline dominant pied (Laughing out loud), but know any of these can be a combo in 1 bird. Remember though if it is an opaline it will be a female . There are many combo spangle dominant pied etc...

 

hens will be opalines

males will be normals

 

(of course we always have a recessive genes that both birds carry that can come out as a surprise and if the male is carrying any sex-linked genes like cinnamon (we know he is an visual opaline )

The hen IS blue series

and Dad is split to blue

Does that change anything you wrote Elly ?

Edited June 20, 200718 yr by **KAZ**

Kaz are you sure that Luigi is an Opaline Spangle? He doesn’t seem to have the green triangle between the shoulders, I know he has green in the wings.

then you have 50% chance of blues and 50% chance of greens. All the green babies will be split to blue. That is the only thing is changes.

 

Norm I was thinking the same thing but I didn't question it when I wrote up genetics...

About the opaline spangle.............if he was a normal spangle, his wing markings would all be black edged wouldn't they ?

Edited June 20, 200718 yr by **KAZ**

Yep, Daddy is definitely an Opaline Spangle...

 

Sooo all girls will be opaline, and all boys will be split to opaline.

 

No percentages here, just possible mutations

 

(Mutations are all possible in the shade of skyblue, cobalt, light green and dark green)

 

Normals (cock only)

Spangles (cock only)

Dom pieds (cock only)

Opalines (Hens only)

dom pied Spangles (cock only)

Opaline spangles (hens only)

Opaline dom pieds (hens only)

opaline dom pieds spangles (hens only)

 

All green will be split to blues. All girls will be opaline, and all boys will be split for Opaline...

Edited June 24, 200718 yr by Cheeta

About the opaline spangle.............if he was a normal spangle, his wing markings would all be black edged wouldn't they ?

 

Kaz I have an Opaline Spangle that is similar to yours & has the wing markings Green like him, but he has the Green triangle too.

 

 

I think there’s some variation in lots of colours [not like the norm] like Green marking when usually they are black & maybe no triangle of green when there should be…it soon will be solved anyway, if he is Opaline he will get Opaline daughters. Some of those new Opaline show type birds I bought the other week have lots of Black marking in the triangle area, which is a fault, whereas some of my others have very little markings there.

Did You breed Luigi yourself Kaz? You know he is split Blue do you know anything else?

About the opaline spangle.............if he was a normal spangle, his wing markings would all be black edged wouldn't they ?

 

Kaz I have an Opaline Spangle that is similar to yours & has the wing markings Green like him, but he has the Green triangle too.

 

 

I think there’s some variation in lots of colours [not like the norm] like Green marking when usually they are black & maybe no triangle of green when there should be…it soon will be solved anyway, if he is Opaline he will get Opaline daughters. Some of those new Opaline show type birds I bought the other week have lots of Black marking in the triangle area, which is a fault, whereas some of my others have very little markings there.

Did You breed Luigi yourself Kaz? You know he is split Blue do you know anything else?

I didnt breed Luigi myself. He has had other babies, so I know he is split to blue. He may also be golden face. All his other babies have been opalines with an opaline hen previously.

Candy and Luigi have quite a nestful of babies. One died that hatched through the night and another was out of the nest and "dead" earlier today...I warmed that one up by breathing warm air onto it ( cupped in my hands ) for about 20 mins until it wriggled and squirmed about. Then I fed it, and gave it to Radar and Swift who are sitting on 5 eggs. Swift has immediately taken the baby on and is feeding it and keeping it warm. Looks fine.

Here are the other babies in Candy and Luigi's nest....7 hatched ( 2 eldest are adopted babies from recessive pied show type parents ).

 

 

what a family ....

Well I was giving others a chance (Laughing out loud)

You know me I am not into all the % stuff

 

 

I'm with you on that one, Elly. I prefer to do the thinking, that genetics program that is being used lately just 'bugs' me really.

 

 

Great nestful you have there, Kaz!

 

 

Feathers

About the opaline spangle.............if he was a normal spangle, his wing markings would all be black edged wouldn't they ?

 

Kaz I have an Opaline Spangle that is similar to yours & has the wing markings Green like him, but he has the Green triangle too.

 

 

I think there’s some variation in lots of colours [not like the norm] like Green marking when usually they are black & maybe no triangle of green when there should be…it soon will be solved anyway, if he is Opaline he will get Opaline daughters. Some of those new Opaline show type birds I bought the other week have lots of Black marking in the triangle area, which is a fault, whereas some of my others have very little markings there.

Did You breed Luigi yourself Kaz? You know he is split Blue do you know anything else?

I didnt breed Luigi myself. He has had other babies, so I know he is split to blue. He may also be golden face. All his other babies have been opalines with an opaline hen previously.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If he has had Opalines, with an Opaline hen…he’s Opaline, no more questions.

 

If he has had Opalines, with an Opaline hen…he’s Opaline, no more questions.

 

that last one turned out a mess & I couldn't find out how to edit it...

 

As I tried to say Kaz...If he has had Opalines, with an Opaline hen…he’s Opaline, no more questions.

Edited June 24, 200718 yr by Norm

Here's Candy and Luigi's 7 in their nest..........

Largest baby is adopted from a show pair (from recessive parents and also next eldest as well ) ...one other chick of theirs is in another nest box . There's some dom pieds in this nest. The largest adopted chick, I have just noticed has two toes with the ends missing

 

Edited June 29, 200718 yr by **KAZ**

Does it look like the toes were bitten off, or that it was born that way Kaz? Just interested to know.

Does it look like the toes were bitten off, or that it was born that way Kaz? Just interested to know.

Well, I transferred that chick to the foster parents nest at around 2 days of age and there was no blood or obvious injury then. I doubt if it happened in the new foster parents nest. But I have noticed two toes just a touch shorter than they should be and no nails unless the toes just appear shorter due to no nails ?

Edited June 29, 200718 yr by **KAZ**

the toes look shorter because their is no nail (maybe), Pretty lost a nail when I first got him. I have NO idea how but it healed up and it never bothered him not to have it but it looked shorter because of that.