Posted June 5, 200718 yr Here are a few pictures of our budgies and breeding setup, we've only just started out... Almost 4 months so we're still quite small and inexperienced... but we love our little guys and gals This is our gorgeous up and coming "Studly" He's only a youngin, hatched the latter part of 06 and we're hoping he passes on his good looks Here's "Studly" with his new consort, our latest acquisition, As yet unnamed. In this picture it does look like she has no tail, it is there however and just a little camera shy Our very handsome grey green cock, currently bonding with a little lacewing (it's the only one he'd look at (Laughing out loud)) One of two of my personal favourites... May I present the suffused yellow "Gold Daddy" And his gorgeous suffused yellow son "Golden Boy", with lutino consort "Little Miss Sunshine" And their gorgeous brood... My beautiful spangles that I have high, high, high hopes for! Come on Double Factor!!!!!!!!! (Laughing out loud) Our very first pairing resulted in 4 eggs and subsequently 4 gorgeous chicks!!! The sky blue is the proud Daddy And their chickies Our soon to be parents, 6 eggs, 4 currently fertile! YOU GO GIRL!!! The big green is the daddy to be And finally our modest setup. It's completely indoors, in our garage actually, they have completely artificial light and seem to be thriving on it. The lights are on a timer and they sleep wth a night light (some are afraid of the dark) Thanks for looking Sorry for the length
June 5, 200718 yr Welcome aboard I noticed you said you had a newcomer but I didn't see that you did a quarantine . (maybe I overlooked it or missed?) Quarantine the Importance PLUS.. Quarantine is the best way in protecting your existing birds from the introduction of infectious disease. It is also to determine whether or not the new bird or birds are diseased and then to treat the problem. The quarantine cage is where all new birds are housed and ideally it should be in a completely different room where there is no airborne or physical contact. Recommend days for quarantine are at least 30 days (1 month). Avian Vets recommend 90 days (3 months) for best results as many illness can lay dorminate. It is strongly recommended you quarantine! If you don't, you could lose all your budgies! You have a beautiful flock and I wouldn't want to see anything happen it .
June 5, 200718 yr When I said new.. I meant newly introduced... We have a cage in our laundry for new birds (Laughing out loud) Thanks for the tip though
June 5, 200718 yr Gotcha , hope I didn't offend you We have a lot of members that don't quarantine and never heard of it so you never know. It is always good to put out there just in case
June 5, 200718 yr Hi there Amy & Eric, you have a few really lovely birds there. The birds that you have called suffused yellow are they Black Eyed Self birds? Here is a description: http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=15223 Feathers.
June 5, 200718 yr Hi there Amy & Eric, you have a few really lovely birds there. The birds that you have called suffused yellow are they Black Eyed Self birds? Here is a description: http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=15223 Feathers. It could very well be.. They look almost identical.. The breeder who parted with both Golden Boy and Gold Daddy insisted they were suffused yellow... and Golden Boy did win a suffused yellow class (Laughing out loud) Not entirely sure about the differences between the two.. I had actually never heard of a BES before... maybe they're one and the same, just with different names in different parts? I believe that they are called suffused yellow as there are tinges of green seen in their feathers.. to quote another website "Another variety that developed over the years when greens were introduced to yellows are the suffused yellows. From their name it is understood that the yellow is suffused with the green (either light, dark or olive green) and the intensity of this suffusion can vary from minimum through to almost 50% of the normal body colour. They differ from the light yellow mainly by the colour of the cheek patches, which are pale blue to pale violet."
June 5, 200718 yr Thanks for the reply. I should have checked in the ANBC "The Standard" before asking. The Suffused Yellow is a variety that is covered under OSV (Other Standard Variety). The description of which follows: Description of Suffused Yellow/White A suffused bird should have their back, rump, breast flanks and underparts in the yellow birds suffused in the green series by light, dark or olive green and the white birds suffused with skyblue, cobalt, mauve or violet. This suffusion may vary in intensity up to 30% of the normal body colour depth. In grey yellow/grey white the back, rump, breast flanks and underparts are to be a grey yellow (mustard) in the green series and pale grey in the blue series. Grey yellows and whites must be free from any shade of green or blue suffusion. MARKINGS: Suffused ground color (modified with grey in Grey Yellow/Grey White) is the optimum. Faint markings are found on their cheeks, back of head, neck and wings. EYES: Black with a white iris ring. PRIMARY FLIGHTS: Yellow/White to very pale grey. Grey white to pale grey in Grey Yellow/Grey White. YELLOW - LIGHT (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a yellowish white to pale blue tail feather. YELLOW - DARK (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a yellowish white to pale blue tail feather, but darker in proportion to YELLOW-LIGHT. YELLOW - OLIVE (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a yellowish white to pale blue tail feather, but darker in proportion to YELLOW-LIGHT and YELLOW-DARK. GREY YELLOW (mustard): has pale grey cheek patches and a grey white to pale grey tail feather. WHITE - SKY (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a bluish white to pale blue tail feather. WHITE -COBALT (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a bluish white to pale blue tail feather, but darker in proportion to WHITE-SKY. WHITE - MAUVE (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a bluish white to pale blue tail feather, but darker in proportion to WHITE-SKY and WHITE-COBALT. WHITE - VIOLET (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a bluish white to pale blue tail feather, but darker in proportion to WHITE-SKY, WHITE-COBALT and WHITE_MAUVE. GREY WHITE (mustard): has pale grey cheek patches and a grey white to pale grey tail feather. NOTE 1: Visible opaline characteristics are not permissible, nor (with the exception of GREY-YELLOW/GREY-WHITE) is the intrusion of the colour grey in the body colour. NOTE 2: There are light, Dark, Medium and Dark shades of GREY-YELLOW and GREY-WHITE. The shade of body colour and cheek patch may vary accordingly. Phew, that's some variety. Feathers. Edit: Elly, just for you I have added this information and photo to Members Rare Budgies: http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=12592 Amy and Eric Can you possibly get another photo of your Suffused budgies that clearly show the colour of the cheek patches and wing detail?
June 5, 200718 yr I'll work on getting some more pictures of him today.. Glad I wasn't completely wrong about him (Laughing out loud)
June 6, 200718 yr Thanks for the reply. I should have checked in the ANBC "The Standard" before asking. The Suffused Yellow is a variety that is covered under OSV (Other Standard Variety). The description of which follows: Description of Suffused Yellow/White A suffused bird should have their back, rump, breast flanks and underparts in the yellow birds suffused in the green series by light, dark or olive green and the white birds suffused with skyblue, cobalt, mauve or violet. This suffusion may vary in intensity up to 30% of the normal body colour depth. In grey yellow/grey white the back, rump, breast flanks and underparts are to be a grey yellow (mustard) in the green series and pale grey in the blue series. Grey yellows and whites must be free from any shade of green or blue suffusion. MARKINGS: Suffused ground color (modified with grey in Grey Yellow/Grey White) is the optimum. Faint markings are found on their cheeks, back of head, neck and wings. EYES: Black with a white iris ring. PRIMARY FLIGHTS: Yellow/White to very pale grey. Grey white to pale grey in Grey Yellow/Grey White. YELLOW - LIGHT (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a yellowish white to pale blue tail feather. YELLOW - DARK (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a yellowish white to pale blue tail feather, but darker in proportion to YELLOW-LIGHT. YELLOW - OLIVE (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a yellowish white to pale blue tail feather, but darker in proportion to YELLOW-LIGHT and YELLOW-DARK. GREY YELLOW (mustard): has pale grey cheek patches and a grey white to pale grey tail feather. WHITE - SKY (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a bluish white to pale blue tail feather. WHITE -COBALT (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a bluish white to pale blue tail feather, but darker in proportion to WHITE-SKY. WHITE - MAUVE (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a bluish white to pale blue tail feather, but darker in proportion to WHITE-SKY and WHITE-COBALT. WHITE - VIOLET (suffused): has white suffused pale blue to violet cheek patches and a bluish white to pale blue tail feather, but darker in proportion to WHITE-SKY, WHITE-COBALT and WHITE_MAUVE. GREY WHITE (mustard): has pale grey cheek patches and a grey white to pale grey tail feather. NOTE 1: Visible opaline characteristics are not permissible, nor (with the exception of GREY-YELLOW/GREY-WHITE) is the intrusion of the colour grey in the body colour. NOTE 2: There are light, Dark, Medium and Dark shades of GREY-YELLOW and GREY-WHITE. The shade of body colour and cheek patch may vary accordingly. Phew, that's some variety. Feathers. Edit: Elly, just for you I have added this information and photo to Members Rare Budgies: http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=12592 Amy and Eric Can you possibly get another photo of your Suffused budgies that clearly show the colour of the cheek patches and wing detail? Do you have the genetics on these birds and pairs? that is the next question that was asked
June 6, 200718 yr As of yet, we haven't met anyone who can detail the genetics with us... We'll be taking Gold Daddy to our budge club meeting next week as a prominent geneticist is going to be present, hopefully he'll shed some light on the subject
June 6, 200718 yr please let us know what they say I read the other post that Kaz's posted about this topic I am very interested to see what they say
June 6, 200718 yr please let us know what they sayI read the other post that Kaz's posted about this topic I am very interested to see what they say Same. The bird above is anything but dilute. It wouldn't surprise me that it is on the same allele as clearwing/dilute etc. as it has an obvious effect on the depth of wing pattern colour. As I said in another post the gene is more than likely recessive, so breeding would be as per any other recessive. The description of suffused just seems to take in more than just a dilute bird however. Feathers.
June 10, 200718 yr Thank you so much! My spangles now have an egg too!! Seems like the water didn't affect them in the slightest!
June 10, 200718 yr Budgies like rain and water, it stimulates them into breeding as it normally signifies the end of a drought and time to increase the flock Congratulations :ausb: Feathers
June 13, 200718 yr GUFF! Talk about the highs and lows of budgies! My parents to be have hatched their first chicklet *cheers*, and Gold Daddy's egg had a huge crack in it and was useless *cries*
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