Posted June 3, 200718 yr Hi just a couple of quick pictures to show you what I bought today. Our local club had a bird sale today, there wasn’t many Budgies, just about 10 pet types & one guy with show types, so I bought 9 all told, to hopefully improve my birds type. What do you guys think? They are a little stressed out & not good pictures, maybe better ones later, they are still in the cages I bought them home in. I’m planning to mate the Opaline Grey cock, left hand of picture with the Cinnamon Opaline Light Green hen, centre of picture. The Cinnamon Grey Opaline hen is very young. And the Grey Green Normal cock left of picture, with the Opaline Sky Blue hen, right of picture…the picture of this hen isn’t true to colour, she has a very violet head & those patches on her body, does that mean she has violet in her? That as far as I have planned as yet. At the end of the sale he offered me the last 3 cocks [not pictured] at $5 each so I got them, even though they are not as good as these Edited June 3, 200718 yr by Norm
June 3, 200718 yr Norm....youv'e picked up some good birds there.....very nice....what price range are we looking at?
June 3, 200718 yr Fantastic birds, I really like the Cinn Opaline green hen in the first picture. Well done, Norm. Feathers.
June 3, 200718 yr Author Norm....youv'e picked up some good birds there.....very nice....what price range are we looking at? Pretty cheap I think Paul...cocks $20 hens $25.
June 3, 200718 yr Nice lot. Good job!........Soooooo wishing we had better breeding stock here in the midwestern USA
June 4, 200718 yr Author Thanks guys, now I only hope they breed well, I’m thinking of breeding them together at first to get more of the straight blood then, mate the offspring to some of my other birds. I especially like the grey opaline cock, they are all beauties. You must have good eyes Elly, that's the best bird I think. He wanted more for that bird, but we had to wait till the sale opened at 10am & then he seemed to have forgotten about that & I got it cheaper.
June 4, 200718 yr I think it was luck Norm but I will take it , glad you got this bird I can't wait too see the offspring
June 10, 200718 yr Author Since I bought those new birds last Sunday I have been busy building four new breeding cabinets, to keep them separate from my other birds. I already finished them all yesterday & paired them up & already put in nest boxes. I changed my mind & paired the Grey Opaline cock with the Sky Blue Opaline hen. The Grey Green cock with the Cinnamon Opaline hen. Aly said she like her, I have decided she looks about the best now, that I have had time to see them properly. [she has been looking in the nest today already & the cocks keen. Then I paired up the Light Green Opaline cock to the Cinnamon Opaline Grey hen. The other two cocks are by themselves. The bird that wasn’t well is still in the house, looked bad at some times, but now seems to be improving, with the warmth of the fire, some antibiotics & dosed with Ivermectin. All have had the Ivermectin treatment. Most of them are flying madly around their cages, so all look good. The not well one was trembling & with noisy breathing & very quite, not a word not calling out to other birds, which it can hear. But I’m hopeful as it’s been a week & it looks better than it was. The noisy breathing may be air sac mites, I have had canaries like that, but never had a Budgie bad with them. Edited June 10, 200718 yr by Norm
June 10, 200718 yr Excellent Norm, I like the way you have put them together. It really comes down to a personal preference thing and you will always have someone else saying that they would have done it another way. Treating the birds when you first get them is the way to go. It is so much easier if they get treated for everything your other birds have been treated for previously, so they are all in the same boat. Mine get ivermectin, worming and a dose of coccivet while in quarantine. Feathers.
June 10, 200718 yr Author I’ve never had coccidiosis with Budgies, only with chickens. My aviaries are completely covered in a bird room & the only water is their drinker. If the aviary got wet at times, maybe it could be trouble. Are there any articles on here on Cocci…I did a search, but it didn’t come up with anything.
June 11, 200718 yr I’ve never had coccidiosis with Budgies, only with chickens. My aviaries are completely covered in a bird room & the only water is their drinker. If the aviary got wet at times, maybe it could be trouble. Are there any articles on here on Cocci…I did a search, but it didn’t come up with anything. Iam of the same opinion,as you Norm.If they are kept in a dry place,cocci should`nt be a problem. Wet litter is the problem & over crowarding.
June 11, 200718 yr I’ve never had coccidiosis with Budgies, only with chickens. My aviaries are completely covered in a bird room & the only water is their drinker. If the aviary got wet at times, maybe it could be trouble. Are there any articles on here on Cocci…I did a search, but it didn’t come up with anything. I know there is nothing in the FAQ's about cocci, it certainly would be something to add if anything has a good article they have written or information .
June 11, 200718 yr I’ve never had coccidiosis with Budgies I never have either, but I don't know the histories of the aviaries that all of my birds have come from. I like to treat them all for it when I first get them. Because of the location of my aviary I wouldn't get a problem with a wet floor, being on a raised patio on concrete. I know a lot of the WA Breeders will give their birds a course of coccivet when they get back from Nationals and some also do a shortened course for their birds after shows, just to be safe. Feathers.
June 11, 200718 yr Author Re coccidiosis, I can’t see how there would be a need to treat birds for that after going to show, as you say some do Feathers. Coccidiosis is a single celled organism, that would have to be picked up from the ground or contaminated food & as birds stay in their own cages at shows, the chance of contamination would be minimal, I would think. But I think it would be a good idea, when buying birds in as you say. Maybe that sick bird I bought could have a problem with it, update on him is that he must have had a problem with air sac mites that was making him wheeze as, as soon as I dosed him with Ivermectin he stopped wheezing. I think they can damage the lungs, so it still may take a few days for him to improve more. Re my new birds, that Cinnamon Green Opaline hen was already in the nest the morning after I gave them the nest. I will start off a separate journal when they start to breed. I was worrying because of their size that my nest entrance hole maybe too small for them, but it was no problem for her & she’s one of the largest. The breeder I bought my birds off seemed a bit casual about disease & problems, as I saw him purchasing a pair of parrots off some guy, so I said to him when you get them home, I would treat them before mixing them with other birds, as some of that guys birds, have really bad scaly mites [on their legs] he just said to me “I’m buying them for a mate, that’s his problem”. Edited June 11, 200718 yr by Norm
August 11, 200718 yr Author I put the Cinnamon Opaline cock with the Opaline Sky Blue hen. Looks like all the eggs are clear, don’t know whether to let them go again or to change cocks. All three of these pairs that I bought are now on eggs, the other two batches should hatch soon [hopefully] I haven’t candled them, I usually don’t. Hope I have at least some luck.
August 12, 200718 yr I missed this post- Nice birds Norm. re: the clear eggs- might be a young cock not quite worked it out yet or maybe give their vent/leg feathers a trim
August 19, 200718 yr Author Update on those new birds...I put three pairs up together, some had not hatched so I checked all the eggs in the three pairs yesterday & all were clear & have been smashed. I have broke up the pairs & paired with different mates from my own birds. I spoke to another guy that bought some from the same breeder at the sale, his were all clear also & he has got rid of them all already. I hope it doesn't mean some disease, most are 06 birds so not that old. I had one spare cock from the same source I paired it with one of my own birds, their eggs look fertile, so I will keep my fingers crossed. Buying from breeders doesn't alway mean it's better, sadly.
August 20, 200718 yr Update on those new birds...I put three pairs up together, some had not hatched so I checked all the eggs in the three pairs yesterday & all were clear & have been smashed. I have broke up the pairs & paired with different mates from my own birds. I spoke to another guy that bought some from the same breeder at the sale, his were all clear also & he has got rid of them all already. I hope it doesn't mean some disease, most are 06 birds so not that old. I had one spare cock from the same source I paired it with one of my own birds, their eggs look fertile, so I will keep my fingers crossed.Buying from breeders doesn't alway mean it's better, sadly. Sometimes clear eggs in a bird that isnt that old, is an indication the birds have been medicated for something. Perhaps treated for psittacosis, or cocci or something like that. A good reason for a person to sell off birds. He may have had something go through his aviary and treated them ( thus sterility issues ...which may be temporary ) but also sold off the birds in case they "carried" the disease they were treated for. :hap:
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