Posted June 1, 200718 yr Hi Just a couple of Questions . Would like to find out , Do I need to feed my pet budgies Cod Liver Oil ? . How many times do I give them the oil and how do I prepare the oil with there food . Also how much of the oil do you mix into the seed . Thankyou for your support.
June 1, 200718 yr Hi Just a couple of Questions . Would like to find out , Do I need to feed my pet budgies Cod Liver Oil ? . How many times do I give them the oil and how do I prepare the oil with there food . Also how much of the oil do you mix into the seed . Thankyou for your support. :ausb: I mix 5ml per 500gms of seed. I leave it 24 hours before feeding it to the birds.
June 1, 200718 yr Welcome 4 Bugs,Cod Liver Oil.Its a good addive,but needs to be used with care.I use it in the breeding boxes,to feed the chicks.I mix 10mls to 1 kilo of seed & leave it stand over night & feed the next day,If you put to much oil in the seed,it will turn sour.With just 5 budgies I would`nt feed it more then 2 times a week.It can make the budgies to fat.I myself would`nt feed it to my flighted bird for that reason.Others may say different.
June 1, 200718 yr Hi Just a couple of Questions . Would like to find out , Do I need to feed my pet budgies Cod Liver Oil ? . How many times do I give them the oil and how do I prepare the oil with there food . Also how much of the oil do you mix into the seed . Thankyou for your support. :ausb: Well 4bugsy....I don't use cod liver oil.....however I do use olive oil and I use it everyday of the year....I have found that the seed we get here in Perth is always very dry....the olive oil puts back the moisture with more protein and helps hens with there egg laying.....
June 1, 200718 yr interesting topic, oil isn't protein it is fattening but I would thinkg if you are using it for breeding birds or those in the aviary is it used for energy purposes. Let's see what the others say. :ausb:
June 1, 200718 yr I put a few drops of codliver oil and wheatgerm oil into the softfood I prepare for my budgies. In talking with a show breeder once he told me to use cod liver oil and wheatgerm oil ....as a seasoned show breeder had taught him. He swore by the difference it made to the birds. :ausb:
June 1, 200718 yr My breeding room birds get seed soaked in cod liver oil and wheatgerm oil. The cod liver oil supplies vitamin D which is required for calcium uptake in birds. This is why it is so commonly used for breeding birds. My breeding room uses 500ml of seed per day, to which I add 4 ml cod liver oil and 1 ml wheatgerm oil, which is left to soak for 24 hours. Feathers.
June 1, 200718 yr This is actually a good FAQ question, what is the purpose of cod liver oil and wheat germ for breeding and non-breeding budgies?
June 1, 200718 yr Great Elly, so now I need to find out the reason behind using wheatgerm oil Feathers.
June 7, 200718 yr I use 5ml of cod liver oil to my breeding birds because like feathers said it is a Vit D plus A few breeders have told me that while using cod liver oil you will rarely get a bird egg bound. The egg bound thing is my main reason for using it. When my son had his horse while living in Bendigo I would also give the horse cod liver oil for the Vitamins plus I think it helped his coat nice and shiny the horse always looked very healthy as do my birds.
June 7, 200718 yr I added this to the FAQ and added everyone's information on how they use it if you would not like your name on there let me know. Here is the FAQ for viewing. http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/faqs/i...=158&artlang=en
June 10, 200718 yr Cod Liver Oil or CLO is the highest in vitamin A. something lacking in most diets. In fact there is 25500 ugrams.
June 10, 200718 yr My breeders have Calcivet in their water. If they have Calcivet in their water, they are getting vitamin A and Vitamin D3. This is in addition to their seed, carrots, spinach and corn. Would they still need Cod Liver Oil?
June 10, 200718 yr My breeders have Calcivet in their water. If they have Calcivet in their water, they are getting vitamin A and Vitamin D3. This is in addition to their seed, carrots, spinach and corn. Would they still need Cod Liver Oil? I dont use Calcivet as a constant. My birds get it 3 days out of every week prior to breeding and the same when raising chicks, I still use cod liver oil in their softfood. Edited June 10, 200718 yr by **KAZ**
June 10, 200718 yr My birds are on Calcivite 4 days every 4 weeks. But have access to Cuttlefish 24/7. The Breeders get Breeding Aid on their seed and the Flights get C.L.O. Edited June 10, 200718 yr by Daz
June 15, 200718 yr hi there cod liver oil is a known source of vitamin a and d which is necessary for normal growth of cells in the body and is also required for sight in the eye. halibut liver oil is the richest source of vitamin a . But be careful with its use as vitamin a in excess is stored in the liver and with overdoseing can do more harm then good , for avairy birds i give it once a week at one tea spoon per 500 grams of seed , breeding birds with young in a seperate dish every second day to give the parents a choice of which seed they want , remember that all dark leafy vegetables (spinach) contain vitamin a also so you dont have to give oil if you dont want to. wheat germ oil is a good source of vitamin e which in budgerigars is required during the breeding cycle it is known as the anti sterility vitamin, i have used it on some hen birds to help bring them into full breeding condition. again use with caution one tea spoon to 500 grams of seed once a week . I mix the wheat germ and cod liver oil together equal parts and use at a rate of one tea spoon to 5oo grams of seed left over night fed the next day . just a reminder dont mix to much as it can go off in time so mix what your birds can eat in one day. gee i hope i didnt get to carried away!! Lonebudgie
June 15, 200718 yr hi there cod liver oil is a known source of vitamin a and d which is necessary for normal growth of cells in the body and is also required for sight in the eye. halibut liver oil is the richest source of vitamin a . But be careful with its use as vitamin a in excess is stored in the liver and with overdoseing can do more harm then good , for avairy birds i give it once a week at one tea spoon per 500 grams of seed , breeding birds with young in a seperate dish every second day to give the parents a choice of which seed they want , remember that all dark leafy vegetables (spinach) contain vitamin a also so you dont have to give oil if you dont want to.wheat germ oil is a good source of vitamin e which in budgerigars is required during the breeding cycle it is known as the anti sterility vitamin, i have used it on some hen birds to help bring them into full breeding condition. again use with caution one tea spoon to 500 grams of seed once a week . I mix the wheat germ and cod liver oil together equal parts and use at a rate of one tea spoon to 5oo grams of seed left over night fed the next day . just a reminder dont mix to much as it can go off in time so mix what your birds can eat in one day. gee i hope i didnt get to carried away!! Lonebudgie Brilliant explanation....many thanks I also found this.....INFERTILITY AND VITAMIN DEFICIENCY Infertility can of course be caused by a vitamin deficiency, namely that of Vitamin E. However it should not be a problem because grain contains Vitamin E in its fatty part. Sometimes Vitamin E is called the anti-sterility vitamin and it is found in abundance in wheatgerm oil. Edited June 16, 200718 yr by **KAZ**
June 15, 200718 yr Cod-live oil… I bought some to mix in my soft food, Cod Liver oil was used lots years ago & you could buy a cheaper source, for animals & birds, but these days with all the synthetic vitamins & the reductions in the cod fisheries in the North Sea off the UK, I could only find a small bottle, which I thought was expensive over $7. After reading Daz’s article from that talk by David Phalen… Daz’s post 31 May…I have wondered about that Calcivite, I have never used it myself, but in Phalen’s article, he is saying that Calcium toxicity is the most dangerous with Budgies, he recommends Cuttlefish & Calcium blocks, I’m just thinking that if you feed a Calcium product in the water, it seems to me that the birds have to take it, if they need water, instead of just taking as they need, with Cuttlefish or the block. What do you think? Daz says he feeds his 4 days every 4 weeks, I guess that would be safe.
June 15, 200718 yr Hi levels of calcium in the diet combined with Vitamin D causes renal failure in Budgerigars. Vitamion D is needed to help the body utilise the calcium intake. There is a post on Pellet diets that showed many on the market is way too high in Calcium. This was commisioned by the WBO. This research is important because it shows that budgerigars can only tolerate a narrow range of calcium in their diet. Calcium concentrations in seeds are insufficient, but calcium concentrations found in most pelleted diets will be too high and could be toxic. Therefore, it is necessary to supplement seed diets with some form of calcium, e.g., cuttlebone and if you are going to feed pellets, they should be no more than 25% of what a budgerigar eats. This research also shows that budgerigars can tolerate a wide range of vitamin D3 concentrations in the diet without problems. I know many top breeder use Calcivite 1 day a week but have cuttlefish bones availible 24/7. Edited June 15, 200718 yr by Daz
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