I just figured out that Kiky might be a yellowface. There is some clear blue right abouve her legs. its only very little but that is a sign of yf right??

Ill take a picture of her soon.

 

heres one that doesnt show the blue

 

 

 

could that be possible?

 

 

its only very very little though, less than half a cm.

Edited May 27, 200718 yr by Marlony

it is very possible

did you acquire her when she was little? or recently?

Do you have younger pics of her?

no I actually got her when she was pretty old, over 9 motnh to be exact.

I hope she is, then I might get blue series babies (i put her and chico together a couple of days ago). So with that very very litle spot of blue over her legs can we say for sure its a yft2?

 

If she is how come she has such dark green?? Would that mean she is is a mauve?

can't say for sure something you have to breed them to see, the yellow face 2 gene can be very light to very dark yellow

so it will only show up if chico is another blue, or split to blue right??

 

its a link so you can see the blue

 

http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s98/177...nt=IMG_1781.jpg

 

it doesnt show it right because I used Flash but I think iy shows it a little.

Edited May 27, 200718 yr by Marlony

Yes that’s right Marlony, YF is recessive to Green, so if an YF is mated to a Green, unless the Green is split for Blue you wont get any visual YF’s. Mated to a Blue it will show up.

okay thanks. So do you think that Kiky is in fact yf or is she just light green?

I believe your just seeing the blue from the flash. All green birds have blue in them as well. If she was YF it would be a patchy green all over.

It’s pretty difficult to tell from that picture, but I think I can see some blue in the green, near her leg. She looks more dark green to me. I noticed that type of blue showing through the green for years & just thought it was a normal part of greens, but lots of others on this site have said it’s a sign that they are in fact YF masked by the green, they suggest that if the bird has some blue feathers under its wing, that’s a sure sign. The only sure way is through breeding with the bird, you might be lucky with this pairing, as many birds are split for blue these days, if not later, if it was paired to a blue bird, as YF is dominant to blue it will show up in the progeny.

Yes Under the wings is a good sign of a YF. But she looks so vevenly green and yellow (as in it's not patchy looking) I would stick with her a a dark green.. wait didn't we work out she as olive:

 

yes, i believe we said olive...

yes The top bar is dark green the bottom is olive.

 

Now a violet green does look very much like an olive and faint blue markings around the legs is said to be a sign of a the violet gene, But I don't see very dark almost black cheek spots on her, which is another sign of violet.

I don't know if this means anything here or not. BUT all the yellowface recessive pieds I have seen have a DEFINITE difference between the shade of yellow on the face and the shade of yellow on the body...a definite line marking where one starts and the other finishes. Like my YF recessive boy Franna...his face is darker than his body colour making his face a definite YF feature. Hope this photo will show what I mean....

Kaz there is a chance,he maybe a Australian Yellow Face type 2. or Golden face as some call them

Kaz there is a chance,he maybe a Australian Yellow Face type 2. or Golden face as some call them

Which one, Macka ? Mine or Marlons ?

Kaz there is a chance,he maybe a Australian Yellow Face type 2. or Golden face as some call them

Which one, Macka ? Mine or Marlons ?

 

That a good question Kaz.I was just replying to that last post with the photo of the recessive pie.& what you wrote,if its Marlonys I dought its a its a Australian Y/F as she in Canada. :feedbirds:

" If the Yellowface genes are alleles of Blue this result should not be possible. However,it should be pointed out that in the instances I am aware of where it had been claimed that a Green to Blue pairing yielded Greens, Blues, and Yellowfaces in the nest, the Yellowfaces involved were Goldenfaces. That in itself suggests the Green birds in the pairings may not have been true Greens at all but heavily pigmented Goldenfaces."

 

I am quoting this from this article, I have always found this interesting in terms of the YF gene The Yellowface Budgie

 

In the picture that Nerwen shows it does show to be olive but on the fligh a yf2 violet is possible.

 

Some birds you have to pair with certain birds to display what genes they are really carrying.

 

Anyways I hope this article helps a bit more.

macka, MACKA???

SHE??

 

 

You are right Nerwen. the cheekpateches are very violet. not blue or black at all. I was wondering if I should've said that before you posted that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

so if she is a yf she has the violet factor as well?? So a skyblue violet yft2 rec. pied?

Or is she a goldenface??

 

ps: this is getting confusing

Edited May 28, 200718 yr by Marlony

Quote "Violet Factor - If a budgie has a violet factor, you may or may not know it. True violet only shows up on cobalt budgies (white-based budgies with one dark factor) or, if double factor, on sky blue budgies(white-based budgies with no dark factor). It is very hard to tell if yellow-based budgies carry a violet factor. The violet usually darkens the green of the body feathers similarly to a dark factor. Sometimes, if you look closely, a violet tinge will be visible on the body feathers near the feet and vent of a green budgie with violet factor. Sky blue budgies with one violet factor will have a violet tinge, especially in the body feathers near the feet, and sometimes look darker than a normal sky blue. It is very difficult to detect violet factor in mauve budgies."

 

 

 

Thats exactly the case with Kiky. But it could still be a green budgie with a violet factor. Kikiy also has a little blue on the vent and near the feet. So I think she is violet for sure - question is: green or blue series?

Edited May 28, 200718 yr by Marlony

I give up.I have gathered from this forum,that a few have VIOLET on the brain,whats the big deal about VIOLET,It only any good in clearwing

& recessive,the pretty coloured birds.You wont see to many on the show

bench.

I found two pictures that I took 3 month ago, if you look closely you can see bluebut you have to zoom in.

 

http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s98/177...nt=DSC02876.jpg

 

 

http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s98/177...nt=DSC03007.jpg

Quote "Violet Factor - If a budgie has a violet factor, you may or may not know it. True violet only shows up on cobalt budgies (white-based budgies with one dark factor) or, if double factor, on sky blue budgies(white-based budgies with no dark factor). It is very hard to tell if yellow-based budgies carry a violet factor. The violet usually darkens the green of the body feathers similarly to a dark factor. Sometimes, if you look closely, a violet tinge will be visible on the body feathers near the feet and vent of a green budgie with violet factor. Sky blue budgies with one violet factor will have a violet tinge, especially in the body feathers near the feet, and sometimes look darker than a normal sky blue. It is very difficult to detect violet factor in mauve budgies."

 

 

 

Thats exactly the case with Kiky. But it could still be a green budgie with a violet factor. Kikiy also has a little blue on the vent and near the feet. So I think she is violet for sure - question is: green or blue series?

the best way to know is to bred her with a blue series bird if you get greens you know you have a green bird if you get all blues you may want to try again to a blue series to see if she is really blue or split for blue.

right know im breeding her and Chico. But after looking at those 2 pictures isnt she blue for sure??

Like Elly said…the only way to be sure is to breed her to a blue [white face] series bird. It’s hard to be sure using pictures, as especially when using flash, colours that you can’t see in real life appear, whether these are real colours of not is hard to say, maybe the camera sees more than we can. Some Budgie feathers are in the ultra violet scale, that humans can’t see, but apparently the birds can, especially the mask & cheek patches, from memory.