I have a normal light green budgies with dark eye, no eye rings. Does this mean he is split for recessive pied. Here is the pedigree of his dad, his mom is a normal light green but her origins are unknown.

He was small then, but now he's grown up and still has dark eyes.

Edited May 28, 200718 yr by Kaz

that is weird. Might he be a recessive pied??? Are you sure he doesnt havve any signs of the recessive pied gene??

How old is he ?

martine said he grew up which would make me think 5 month + Thats whats so weird..

 

Could it be a new variety, that would be awesome!!

martine said he grew up which would make me think 5 month + Thats whats so weird..

 

Could it be a new variety, that would be awesome!!

I know she said he grew up Marlon, but no age has been stated yet and you are guessing. Just because a bird has a blue cere does not mean its iris rings must be there yet. Sometimes they are pale and do not show till later.

Edited May 25, 200718 yr by Kaz

at 5 months there is still time for a ring to appear, some birds don't show one until after the age of 1.

 

The chart states is age in 2003. Can you post a picture of him now? There is only a small amount of rec. pied used in his history.

 

edit -Kaz and I posted at the same time.

Edited May 25, 200718 yr by Nerwen

in the picture I see he is still a wee baby not even first molt I assume that was before. As Nerwen and Kaz said it can take up to 12 months to get an iris ring and some come in very faint.

oh, sorry i thought the iris comes at 1, 2, or 3 months of age.

There seems to be fallow in this birds bloodlines.

QUOTE " Paring German and English Fallows together is not a good practice because the youngsters are all "black eyed" and split for German and English Fallow. The Fallow mutation is recessive."

 

It is possible that the fallow in this birds breeding has resulted in the blackeye in this bird which seems to be a 2003 bird......a 4 year old.

Edited May 25, 200718 yr by Kaz

I'm sorry, I should have been more spécific. Pistache is 16 or 17 months old. The pedigree chart like I said is not his but his dad's. Nothing is known about the mom beside the fact that she is also à light green. The other administrator on my forum came up with a very similar theory as your's Kaz. I will translate it and put it up as well as a new picture of Pistache.

 

 

Here is what Spurgard had to say:

..I looked on the recessive pied side but nothing...Then I found a trail, german fallows have red eyes et rings but when they are split for recessive pied, the ring dissepears and the bird has red eyes without rings (like the english fallows)

But your bird does not have red eyes and he is not fallow

then I found the solution:

The mating of english fallow X german fallow does not give fallows but "normals" split for english and german fallows and they have dark eyes!

Voilà (I do not know how to translate voilà!) the mystery is soved!

 

Since the mother is more likely to have been split for recessive pied, we do not have too many fallows here, though the breeder might have have them, could it be that the fact that the mom may have been split for recessive pied give the same effect?

At that age its been long enough for the iris rings to devop if they were going to. I think its due to the fallow breeding.

Here is what Spurgard had to say:

..I looked on the recessive pied side but nothing...Then I found a trail, german fallows have red eyes et rings but when they are split for recessive pied, the ring dissepears and the bird has red eyes without rings (like the english fallows)

But your bird does not have red eyes and he is not fallow

then I found the solution:

The mating of english fallow X german fallow does not give fallows but "normals" split for english and german fallows and they have dark eyes!

Voilà (I do not know how to translate voilà!) the mystery is soved!

 

Since the mother is more likely to have been split for recessive pied, we do not have too many fallows here, though the breeder might have had them, could it be that a split for recessive pied give the same effect?

 

See what Jerry had to say?

wow, thats cool. so if german fallows are split for recesisve pied, the ring dissapears??

wow, thats cool. so if german fallows are split for recesisve pied, the ring dissapears??

 

Are you suggesting this? Because this is not what was said?

Edited May 28, 200718 yr by Martine

wow, thats cool. so if german fallows are split for recesisve pied, the ring dissapears??

 

Marlon ...you have misread.

QUOTE " Paring German and English Fallows together is not a good practice because the youngsters are all "black eyed" and split for German and English Fallow. The Fallow mutation is recessive."

 

The fallow mutation is recessive as in a recessive gene....not recessive as in recessive pied

Edited May 28, 200718 yr by Kaz

oh, i see.

Yeah I know it is an old topic.

 

Was looking at your profile Martina and saw this post and it caught my eye. Anyhow checked out the link to the pedigree and well I must say the pedigree has so many anomalies in it.