I pretty much understand all the basic mutations but what are these?? I found a description of them but I dont know anyone that has one of these, or ever mentioned them...

 

Laurel Budgie ?

 

Royal Opaline ?

 

White Eyed-Lacewing ? i meant white eyed not red-eyed

 

continental clearflight ?

 

seafoam budgie ?

 

Scottish Fallow ?

 

I added some more

 

Darkwing ?

 

Black Eyed Clear ?

 

non sex-linked ino ??

 

australian clearwing ??

 

polydactylil ??

 

pearly ??

 

pallid ??

 

brownwing ??

 

halfsider ??

 

frosted ??

Edited May 26, 200718 yr by Marlony

Laurel Budgie ? …Dark Green.

 

Royal Opaline ?…Never heard of that.

 

Red Eyed-Lacewing ?…Lacewings are red eyed.

 

continental clearflight ?…I think we just call them Clearflight here, they are called that in the UK.

 

seafoam budgie ? That what they call Yellow Faced blues type 2…the breast has a lot of green bleed in the blue, so they call them seafoam.

 

Scottish Fallow ?…There are a few Follows, that’s just one of them…there is also the German Follow…they are slightly different I think in some ways, but I don’t know the details.

Laurel Budgie ? Yes but never remember what it means

 

Royal Opaline ? Yes but seeing pictures have never seen any differance to a normal opaline and so believe it is simply a fancy name some people have come up with.

 

Red Eyed-Lacewing ? As Norm said - they must have red eyes to be lacewing

 

continental clearflight ? As Norm said - we say Clearflight this is just the full name, they are also called Clearflight dominant and Dutch dominant

 

seafoam budgie ? As Norm said - common name for Yellowface type 2

 

Scottish Fallow ? As Norm said - a type of fallow.

Yes I've heard of them, and my understanding as as explained by Norm and Nerwen.

the only one that I haven't heard of before today is Laurel budgie...

I posted the same question on another forum. Im just asking if I could quote his answer.

 

check the first post. I added some more.

White Eyed-Lacewing ? i meant white eyed not red-eyed…Never heard of that one Marlony.

 

Darkwing ? Here’s a site where someone in Australia sells them, I think I have to show the site, as if I used some of his pictures I could get in trouble. I hope to get some one day soon; they are one of the rarer varieties.

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/kyorke/p28.htm

 

 

Black Eyed Clear ? I think that is just another name for Dark Eyed Clears…DF Recessive Pieds.

If you are asking me if you can use my answers here on some other site, that’s okay with me Marlony. Your keenness to learn & what you have learned already in a short time is admiral.

I was actually talking about someone on another forum. If I could quote him. He knew what a royal opaline, a white eyed lacewing and a seafoam budgie is and I wanted to tell you guys.

 

Thanks for the kind comment Norm. Obviously you know a lot of those mutations too as you knew what almost all where. Sorry

Edited May 24, 200718 yr by Marlony

I was actually talking about someone on another forum. If I could quote him. He knew what a royal opaline, a white eyed lacewing and a seafoam budgie is and I wanted to tell you guys.

 

Thanks for the kind comment Norm. Obviously you know a lot of those mutations too as you knew what almost all where. Sorry

 

I'm pretty sure it would be okay to tell us what the other guy said Marlony, especially if you just use your own words, you don't need to totaly quote him. It's your knowledge now you know. And would be interesting for us here.

okay, that sounds allright. Ill just copy and paste a few things that he said because he just found it somewhere on google anyway

 

A royal Opaline

 

A royal opaline is just anormal opaline but with a really nice colour. A true royal opaline can only be bred if you breed normal to opaline so you wont have have the thumb print on the wing.

 

 

White Eyed Lacewing

 

White Red Eyed Lacewing

Mask (face) - white

Body - white with cinnamon brown and white wavey striped wings and back.

Tail Feathers - cinnamon brown

Throat Spots - three cinnamon brown spots on each side

Cheek Patches - pale purple

Eyes - red (darker than albinos) with light iris ring

Yellow Red Eyed Lacewing

 

Mask (face) - yellow

Body - yellow with cinnamon brown and yellow wavey striped wings and back.

Tail Feathers - cinnamon brown

Throat Spots - three cinnamon brown spots on each side

Cheek Patches - pale purple

Eyes - red (darker than albinos) with light iris ring

 

Black-Eyed Clear

 

A curious phenomenon occurs when the Continental Clearflight mutation is combined with the Danish Pied. This blend gives rise to Black Eyed Clears. Black Eyed Clears are, as the name suggests, pure white or yellow parakeets with black eyes. Like all Danish Pieds, the entire eye remains black. This dark eye prevents any confusion with Albinos or Lutinos. Albinos are pure white birds with red eyes. Lutinos are pure yellow keets with red eyes. Black eyed clears are in great demand as pets.

 

 

 

 

 

 

and a seafoam budgerigar

 

The seafoam is supposed to lack the wing markings which distinguish the rainbow. A nice clearwing or greywing sky or cobalt male will give you a couple of nice seafoams. Seafoam is not really a true variety. Just a work to describe a color (in my experience a yellowface type II)

Edited May 25, 200718 yr by Marlony

okay With those answers it seem to me you are simply mixing up the name of these mutations.

 

White-eyed lacewing you have put the true title in your answer :

White Red Eyed Lacewing - this is simply a lacewing in the blue line.

 

Yellow Red Eyed Lacewing - is a lacewing in the green line

 

Black-Eyed Clear - is a Norm said either another name or mixed up name for a DEC (Dark Eyed Clear) which is as you said a combination of Continental Clearflight (dutch) and Danish (rec.) Pied. Black eyed Clear is also used for a Double Factor Spangle.

 

Seafoam - I do not believe that you need a greywing or clearwing gene for a seafoam look. As you stated "Just a word to describe a color"

 

Darkwing - It enhances the foreground markings, it is best to see with the dilute gene making the grey markings stronger. The idea is to get very strong wing markings with almost no body colour (left with yellow or blue)

Edited May 25, 200718 yr by Nerwen

oh my bad. Sorry Nerwen..

 

i found this website with the weirdest mutations and colour adding factors.

 

http://www.euronet.nl/users/hnl/symbols.htm

 

non sex-linked ino ??

 

australian clearwing ??

 

polydactylil ??

 

pearly ??

 

pallid??

Edited May 25, 200718 yr by Marlony

non sex-linked ino - Yep a very rarely talked about gene. It act like any recessive gene and looks like inos.

 

australian clearwing - just another name for clearwings, the English have actually lost the clearwing gene.

 

polydactylil - lost me there

 

pearly - seems it's an ino gene, I believe there is a name like this for a teil gene they many be using this in place of another name

 

pallid - not ringing a bell either, seems to be just another name for the ino gene.

An Australian Clearwing is actually different to the other type, it has a solid coloured tail while the other has a clear tail.

 

Pallid could also be another name for a dilute/greywing/clearwing?

thanks you two. I was really confused after reading some of the names of mutations.

If you ever come across anything confusing, punch in a google search and see what you come up with. Their will always be differing opinions on terminology. For example..the laurel budgie...I found a bit of info that described it as a blue budgie....so there you go.

Edited May 26, 200718 yr by Kaz

ive looked for this on google and didnt find much about it??? Whats a brownwing? some people say the mutation doesn't exist anymore..

 

Isnt a brownwing like a cinnamonwing?

And whats a half-sider?

frosted?

Edited May 26, 200718 yr by Marlony

This is a haf sider...

 

Side one:

 

 

Side 2:

 

 

It is a budgie that shows 2 completely different mutations on each side. In this case normal green and normal blue

 

 

Feathers.

wow, thats stunning. Its not yours right??

Isnt a brownwing like a cinnamonwing? -

 

Yes it looks like a cinnamon but the brownwing gene is recessive while the cinnamon is sex linked. I think it was discovered that Karen had a Brownwing.

 

And whats a half-sider?

 

Feathers gave a great example of a half sider.

 

frosted?

 

This is a new pied that is showing up. It think it is linked or looks like a recessive pied.

look what i found, the rarest budgie in usa...

 

a double crested dominant pied halfsider.

 

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2884807790057996497BBqTWN

Pallid could also be another name for a dilute/greywing/clearwing?

 

Ellulah - it could be too, I was just going on the chart on the page on the right side it said inop.

 

as to the crested halfside, both sides would have helped. From that shot all I see is a Crested yellowface mauve dominate pied.

Edited May 27, 200718 yr by Nerwen

wow, thats stunning. Its not yours right??

 

 

Nope, not mine. That one belongs to a member of the South West Budgerigar Club in Western Australia. There are photos online, and in this forum, ( http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=13476 ) for another half sider that is literally split down the middle rather than just a patch on this bird.

 

The one that you posted would have been the rarest bird at the show he was put in, not necessarily the rarest in the USA, and as Nerwen said, a photo of side two would have helped as the "half sider" mutation could not be seen on that one side.

I bred some half siders in Masked African Lovebirds some years ago, about three I think, but they are such savage birds, that every time the young left the nest, other birds in the same avairy, killed them straight off. They must have noticed something different about them, or maybe they were slower than normals in getting out of the way. I was so dissapointed. Has anyone heard of whether anyone has been able to breed from them.

Edited May 27, 200718 yr by Norm

Norm, that doesn't surprise me. That is why the mutations that have been developed in captive budgerigars don't survive in the wild, they are killed off by the 'normals'.

 

I personally don't know of anyone who has bred using a half sider. I shall have to ask the owner of the one that I posted.

 

 

Feathers.

Hey if anyone wants to help me out (Laughing out loud) this could be a good for the FAQ section once it is all worked out (Nerwen, Aly..hint hint )