I'm helping someone on another forum here. With his permission i'll post a picture of one of his budgies and hopefully someone here can tell me what mutation it is so i can pass it back to him!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/nil.../Picture160.jpg

Edited May 14, 200718 yr by Bea

okay I have been told my monitor is off so let me ask Bea

I enlarged the picture the cere looks purplish pink or is it blue?

Also the blue looks hued vs being the color of the bird do you agree?

 

Let me know

It's just a baby so still has the pinky purple cere of a baby boy. I think the purpley colour of the cere means it will eventually change to blue. From what the owner told me the colour is body colour and can be seen all the time.

my thoughts and I am no expert is a diluted whitewing violet

 

I thought at first maybe a double factor spangle then the cere would go blue and the iris rings appear or a dark eyed clear where the cere would be a fleshy pink but it does look like it would go blue.

 

right now I am searching more too

I always thought whitewing (clearwing) was a type of dilute, so you couldn't have a dilute whitewing. I also thought that clearwings had strong body colour...or is that just a type of clearwing?

Bea what was the parents?

 

It "looks" like a Double factor spangle with grey suffussion. Cock.

Clearwing budgies have very light or no markings on head and wings and the body color is brightened (not lightened or diluted). So I added dilute in there because I am not sure if they share the same allele.

 

See that is why I was leaning as Daz is toward the DFS in my head first and that is why I mentioned it also.

Bea what was the parents?

 

It "looks" like a Double factor spangle with grey suffussion. Cock.

I believe it's a pet shop budgie. DFS with grey suffusion would work. I don't think the owner is planning to breed from it, so i guess there's no way to tell for sure?

Here is an interesting article I am reading in my search for information http://homepage.ntlworld.com/k_jones/clwyd...ety_dilutes.htm by Al-Nassar and it talks about dilutes and the 2 different types of whites you can have that part is very interesting and can pertain to this bird.

 

DFS and a white dilute with grey suffusion would show the same features of the blue cere and iris ring?

 

 

okay I am probably looking into this too much here is information I found that a dilute clearwing can be

 

"sf Clearwing * sf Clearwing = 25% df Clearwing + 50% sf Clearwing + 25% Dilute (2)

 

In this type of pairing, if one of the parents is split for suffused Dilute, then the Dilute youngsters will be heavily suffused with body colour. These are occasionally referred to as dilute Greywings or sometimes dilute Clearwings. If the Clearwing parents are both split for the lightly suffused Dilute (the cinnamon-free Black-eyed Self) then the Dilutes will look like a Cinnamon-free Black-eyed Self, or a lightly suffused Yellow or White free of wing markings. These are sometimes called dilute Clearwings." NOTE THIS comes from this SITE - here is the full article for reference http://www.budgerigar.com.au/clearwings.html

Edited May 15, 200718 yr by Elly

my head is hurting...

I had the same thought as Daz a DF spangle or DEC with suffusion

Bea what are the eyes? Black, Red or Black with an irus ring?

Black i believe, he's still a baby so can't answer the iris ring yet.