Hey guys,

 

I am a little concerned about Snow White, She just stays in the nest box I but her and Elvis in a Breeding cage hoping that they will bond and she just fights him off doesn't show any interest in him at all, which isn't worrying so much. However she just stays in her nest box there are no eggs, and I doubt she will lay any as she hates elvis. She is healthy almost 2 ( july) has all the goodies, Veg, Cal, Mineral block etc... she is sick. Is she just getting comfy or does she want to get away from Elvis that bad she has to hide???

Should I take them out? Or see how things go???

 

Oh P.S She does come out to eat and drink that is it though

 

Advice much needed thanks

Your hen is under stress. Maybe the cockbird is too "full on" for her. She is hiding there but she may well be getting sick from the stress. Remove her to a cage by herself and watch her for signs of illness. Check her bottom for signs of ill health. Separate the pair immediately.

To her the nestbox is just a retreat, somewhere safe and away from him. Definitely take her out. If you leave her it may become 'learnt behaviour' and she may never view the nestbox as a nesting place.

 

 

Feathers.

To her the nestbox is just a retreat, somewhere safe and away from him. Definitely take her out. If you leave her it may become 'learnt behaviour' and she may never view the nestbox as a nesting place.

 

 

Feathers.

 

Thanks I will do that now,

Kaz How do I check their Bottom????? What am I looking for

To her the nestbox is just a retreat, somewhere safe and away from him. Definitely take her out. If you leave her it may become 'learnt behaviour' and she may never view the nestbox as a nesting place.

 

 

Feathers.

 

Thanks I will do that now,

Kaz How do I check their Bottom????? What am I looking for

 

Checking a budgies bottom should be a daily thing ....a poopy gluggy bottom with dirty feathers ( dirty vent area ) is a sign of ill health. If you know the state of your budgies poops you know how well or not they are and you can treat them or do what you need to get them well again.

Your hen is showing signs of stress in the breeding situation with the cockbird and can get sick from that. I have lost a couple of hens that way in the past when they got stressed and subsequently sick from attentions from a male that wrre a bit more than they could handle at the time. Only birds in the very best of health should be in breding together and at the first sign of things not right separate them.

Thanks I will do that now,

Kaz How do I check their Bottom????? What am I looking for

Checking a budgies bottom should be a daily thing ....a poopy gluggy bottom with dirty feathers ( dirty vent area ) is a sign of ill health. If you know the state of your budgies poops you know how well or not they are and you can treat them or do what you need to get them well again.

Your hen is showing signs of stress in the breeding situation with the cockbird and can get sick from that. I have lost a couple of hens that way in the past when they got stressed and subsequently sick from attentions from a male that wrre a bit more than they could handle at the time. Only birds in the very best of health should be in breding together and at the first sign of things not right separate them.

 

okay .. She is in the aviary - and both their feathers around their bottoms are stained. I thought it was because of the fresh fruit and veg and grass i am giving them!! Great, their poops look normal black with a white eye should I take them to the vets to or just see how they go?

I didn't know you had to check their bottoms daily, *Now in my budgie Book

Edited May 11, 200718 yr by Kaz

Neat, considering their poopy bottoms and the breeding stresses they have just been under, it might pay to keep them in a smaller cage with a warm lamp for a few days until you are totally happy that they are back to normal. Sometimes straight from a breeder cage into the aviary isnt always good for them. Do you have somewhere they can be separately but not the aviary ( two cages ? ) and with a heat source like a lamp ?

 

Any kind of stresss can make a budgie ill, change of location, transporting elsewhere, breeding etc. This can bring on illness, so that why we have to be very sure that a pair we are breeding with are absolutely in the very best of health. Watching for signs of an over aggressive mate when pairing up can also mean you must separate that particular pair to avoid stress and illness.

Edited May 11, 200718 yr by Kaz

Neat, considering their poopy bottoms and the breeding stresses they have just been under, it might pay to keep them in a smaller cage with a warm lamp for a few days until you are totally happy that they are back to normal. Sometimes straight from a breeder cage into the aviary isnt always good for them. Do you have somewhere they can be separately but not the aviary ( two cages ? ) and with a heat source like a lamp ?

 

Any kind of stresss can make a budgie ill, change of location, transporting elsewhere, breeding etc. This can bring on illness, so that why we have to be very sure that a pair we are breeding with are absolutely in the very best of health. Watching for signs of an over aggressive mate when pairing up can also mean you must separate that particular pair to avoid stress and illness.

Thanks Kaz I have a flight cage and a Normal little one....

I was reading up and thought it may have been worms ( All birds were wormed 4 weeks ago straight in their beak so i knew they were done),

"If you notice a bird doing a lot of sleeping but still eating when food is offered normally you will find worms to be the cause, a stained or dirty vent is another good sign "

 

I will get the heat lamp onto them right away..... Thanks for the heads up

Hubby decided to used the bird cages for a experiment? Go figure.. I left her in the aviary.... Only to Find that her and Margoo BONKING LIKE MAD.....

Her bottom is very pink and feathers are missing, I have put a nest box in the aviary and she has kicked all the wood shvings out...

Maybe she needed a real man and not a boofy head one LMAO.. Poor Elvis,

It was so werid watching them do it ( never seen it before ) i felt like I was intrudung (Laughing out loud)...

BUT YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

If i am right 8 days till egss????which mean I will get eggs for my Birthday !!!!!!

Can take 7 days and as long as up to 19 days for the first egg to arrive

Oh !...

But they mated * Jumps for Joy yeahhhhhhhhhhh

I am not really expecting any eggs it would be my luck, How ever little baby steps though I am really excited!... I was about to give up on any breeding as they all just didn't seem interested, Maybe they wanted to pick their own,.....

But I think i made a bit of an oppsy only having 3 birds in the aviary Margoo, Snow white and Prince and the others are in seperated Homemade breeding cages typical non experience breeded LMAO, I will wait and see what happens with snow white and "eggs" before any return to the aviary..... Now I just wondering if Prince has a go too, what happens their Guess I will find out though,

I can't wait to change to Breeder on my profile... This makes up for a crappy week....

Neat, what you can do now to make life easier...is to put those two birds back into a breeder cage. Keep the first egg safe for a couple of days until she has laid the next egg in the breeder cage nestbox. The add the first egg into the nestbox..... and all will be fine. No stresses and the parents can do their own thing and not have to worry about other birds.

Neat, what you can do now to make life easier...is to put those two birds back into a breeder cage. Keep the first egg safe for a couple of days until she has laid the next egg in the breeder cage nestbox. The add the first egg into the nestbox..... and all will be fine. No stresses and the parents can do their own thing and not have to worry about other birds.

 

Gezz I would not have thought of that

Good!.....Thank Kaz, Once again a :angel1:

Kaz, how do you keep the first egg warm until the second one arrives? Especially if you are not a professional breeder with all the equipment. If they lay on alternate days that means at least a day to keep warm. And would you bother to put a marble in there until you put it back?

Kaz, how do you keep the first egg warm until the second one arrives? Especially if you are not a professional breeder with all the equipment. If they lay on alternate days that means at least a day to keep warm. And would you bother to put a marble in there until you put it back?

 

The egg hasnt begun to be incubated yet. No first eggs are usually. It is only once an egg has begun to be incubated....i.e. the hen sits all the time on them that you need to be concerned about temperature. What I have suggested, I have done many times and it works. You dont need to put a marble in there, as the hen will just proceed to lay the next egg...she wont be getting stressed looking for the first and missing egg. Eggs can be kept for quite some time until they are incubated. Some breeders actually keep all laid eggs, replacing them with fake eggs until the last egg is laid and then replace all...the idea being that all eggs will hatch on the same day and parents are less stressed by feeding only one kind of "baby budgie food" instead of varying kinds for each baby. All babies will be the same size and not squash siblings.

Even a professional breeder doesnt need anything to keep the egg warm...just in a safe place for awhile.

Edited May 15, 200718 yr by Kaz

You learn something every day! I thought as soon as it leaves the hens body it had to be kept warm.

 

The theory follows then that egg 1 and 2 will then hatch on the same day because they started "cooking" at the same time. You'd have less chicks getting squashed if they all started on the same day, too. Gonna file that one away, thanks!

I have had hens start laying eggs in silly places...behind bracken, in coconut shells, in seed dispensers and on top of containers or poles in the aviary. What I do then is put the hen and the cock in a breeder cage where she proceeds to lay the next egg. Once she has, I put her other eggs in with her as well. Saves the eggs and chicks. This works best when only a 2-3 eggs have been laid. If the next egg is imminent and the hen will go straight to the nestbox to lay, the delay is very minor in adding the other eggs.

Edited May 15, 200718 yr by Kaz

So, unlike Daz, you put cocks and hens together in the flights? You put up some birds which you have specifically selected for show breeding, but also allow others to pick each other, like Zeus and Sophie?

 

Sorry if it's off topic a bit, just got interested.

So, unlike Daz, you put cocks and hens together in the flights? You put up some birds which you have specifically selected for show breeding, but also allow others to pick each other, like Zeus and Sophie?

 

Sorry if it's off topic a bit, just got interested.

 

Yes I have mixed flights. hens and cocks. I have heard from show breeders and they prefer mixed flights. In their experience they state the segregating the sexes can lead to cock birds only liking boys and not mating with a hen when the time comes. Mixed flights also mean the younger ones get to see the mating ritual and learn by it. Zeuss and Sophie took it upon themselves to set up home in a coconut shell and had laid 2-3 eggs by the time I discovered them. So I put them in a breeder cage, saved the eggs and added them after she laid the next egg in the nestbox.

Show birds are deliberate matches by me for them in a breeder cage. My pet types can and do sometimes choose their partners. I allow that sometimes if the match is a good one, but not if related....and not if the birds are both too small a "type".

I have had lots of hens that act like Neats, once their in the breeding cabinets, you only see them for brief moments, to feed or be fed by the cocks. I had one hen that I put up to breed & she was so keen she was straight into the nest & I didn’t see her doing anything with the cock & thought the first batch of eggs would be infertile, but they are now raising 5 chics.

I have had lots of hens that act like Neats, once their in the breeding cabinets, you only see them for brief moments, to feed or be fed by the cocks. I had one hen that I put up to breed & she was so keen she was straight into the nest & I didn’t see her doing anything with the cock & thought the first batch of eggs would be infertile, but they are now raising 5 chics.

 

 

I guess, what we don't see won't hurt us, But stress us out (Laughing out loud)...

I went to check on the brids and they are bonking mad.....

But i am glad she found Mr Right - Now

WELL i got an EGG this MORNING :ausb:

 

However it was splatted on the ground

she is still going for it? this is her first time ....

is it normal to kick it out?????