I think with the Ivermectin you have to be lucky & have a vet who is prepared to sell it in the smaller lots, as I have heard, as I think I have said before on this forum, that it’s now been made illegal [by law] to break things up into small lots, without the full instructions of it’s uses & it’s also illegal to use things for things, that haven’t had full testing & approval. Even at my local produce store, if you buy small amounts of chook pellets, they have copies of the label from the larger bags, printed by computer attached. I think part of it came about through the mad cow scare, where people had fed cows with products that were for other animals. Even though the CSIRO have produced work on using Ivermectin, to treat air sac mites in Gouldian Finches. It hasn’t been approved by law, for use on anything other than sheep, goats & cattle [just checked my bottle] says is for use on internal & external parasites…no mention of any birds, poultry etc…just lists the parasites [which are sheep & cattle parasites] then says may not be used for any purpose or manner contrary to this label, unless authorised under appropriate legislation. I have seen that in the USA it’s sold for human hair lice. Like all chemicals you have to use it safely, but from my use it seems very safe, I have accidentally overdosed birds & quickly rubbed as much as possible off & thought I would be in trouble, as it absorbs very fast through the skin, but so far touch wood, no bad effects. Every bird that comes into my place is now dosed straight away on arrival, so I hope I’m getting rid of all internal & external parasites. Before I bought birds that looked healthy, but after some months I started to see scale mite coming on lots of my birds, since its use no further cases.

Lisachilton…glad you didn’t loose any of the other birds. By poison, I meant that if you didn’t put anything like plants or branches in, different than usual, it may have been a poison through the food, maybe mice contamination. Or even something to do with the soil floor you had, maybe it got wet or some fungus bred in it. I think it is probably pretty safe if nothing has happened already with the other birds. I think that like you say if you are concreting the floors & have tried to limit access to mice & rats & also make sure if you aren’t already, to protect their food where you store it, you shouldn’t have any more trouble, at least I hope not. After you concrete each floor wash everything with water with household bleach [cheap] & probably replace all perches & start a new. Doesn’t that wormgel have instruction on how often to use it? If not I have never used it; you will have to wait for someone that advised you to use it can advise you, on here. Good Luck.

PS. I think you are okay with your wormgel & spray for now…but just a thought, if your in a rural area & can’t get your vet to supply small amount of Ivermectin, try to find some farmer that is using it & buy a small amount from him.

I am gradually loosing al my budgies

I had about  180 birds

I have them in 1 avaery and in a second avery and in the bird room in breeding boxes

I nave loose many out of the 1 syt avery

UI lose mostly out of the second avery ther is a night light there

And loos consitantly some in the bird room.

Nearly always hens

1 egg bound every now and again

some on the floor of the cage broken necks

others unknown cause

some older birds and now some birds only 2 years old

I loose any where from 1 to 4 a week

My avery population is down to 80 birds now.

I am loosing more than I can breed,

This doesn't seem rite.