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I wonder if you could help us out? A member on our forum had this little bit of mystery to unravel. We nedds all the help we can get. Our forum is in french so I translated for you guys.

 

Starsky says:

The parents: The male is an opaline grey, the female is albino.

 

The babies :

 

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The grey is expectable, the albinos as well, I knew the dad was split for it.

Cinnamon opaline I did not know he was a carrier.

 

But???

 

 

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The belly and the chest should be all white?

It is not a pied, dominant or recessive, there are none on the mother's side.

I do not know on the dad's side.

 

later....

That bird is pied and he should not be.

I trace the monther's lineage till 2002, no pied.

On the father's side, I bought him in 2003 in a pet shop. His origins are a mystery.

He fathered babies every year since I had him with a different female and he never had babies like this little female. No cinnamon either.

the baby to me looks like a recessive pied.

 

the only way this is possible is that The mother is either split for recessive pied, or is actually masking recessive pied. and father is split for recessive pied.

 

Father would be split to cinnamon as well. so this is a girl as your friend had mentioned already.

 

with genetics, it may be percentage, but it doesn't mean that you'll get it out of every clutch. so it could be hidden for many generation before it is 'shown' with the right combination of birds and genes

very interesting.

 

Cinnamon for sure which would come from the male like the ino gene.

 

Now Ino can mask a dominant trait (meaning it is a dominant pied, for example, but the ino over rides it hiding the fact) tracing back to 2002 I would have thought a pied would show up, but then I have heard of someone having to trace back 15 years to find a recessive gene breed into the line.

 

What about pictures of the parents? is that possible? Does the sire have a small head spot? there is talk that the spot is a mark of a split to recessive pied bird.

 

Edit to add- cheeta and I posted at the same time.

Edited by Nerwen

about? :( Nerwen answered your question and was looking for pics of the parents. :D.

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about? :D Nerwen answered your question and was looking for pics of the parents. :D.

I'm sorry Elly, it's just that I was not familiar with the new way the replies show up at the bottom and I did not see them at first. :(

Thats okay :( I an understand when your use to things a certain way.

 

Seeing the full colours when the bub has grown fully will help as well then working out the mystery.

Edited by Nerwen

about? :D Nerwen answered your question and was looking for pics of the parents. :D.

I'm sorry Elly, it's just that I was not familiar with the new way the replies show up at the bottom and I did not see them at first. :(

 

Gotcha (Laughing out loud) I figured you didn't see it but didn't figure out why now I know :D

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Thats okay :blush: I an understand when your use to things a certain way.

 

Seeing the full colours when the bub has grown fully will help as well then working out the mystery.

We'll keep you up to date. :blush:

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