Kiky (normal olive green recessive pied hen)

 

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Fiby (normal sky blue hen)

 

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Emjay (normal cobalt blue dominant pied cock)

 

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s98/177...to/DSC03482.jpg

 

 

 

Chico (recessive pied light green cock)

 

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s98/177...to/DSC03608.jpg

 

 

Cherry (blue yellowface type 2 cinnamon oplaline hen)

 

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s98/177...to/DSC03514.jpg

 

 

 

I was told these are the mutation in another forum... were they right??

 

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Edited April 20, 200718 yr by Nerwen

Chico have iris rings he looks more dominant? but then I don't see iris rings but they could be light? If he is over 6 months with no iris rings in both eyes recessive would be correct.

 

Also when they are only normals if they looks like the "normal" budgie but if they are say a Double Factor Dominant Pied like Emjay you don't use the word normal because he is not considered a normal. There are different dominant pieds and he is a Double Factor.

 

Kiko looks like a green not olive recessive pied.

 

Beautiful birds.

green, as in regular green??? no recessive pied??

so is emjay doubble factor?

Edited April 20, 200718 yr by Marlony

recessive is the mutation

green is the coloration

so green recessive pied

 

Double Factor Pied for Emjay yes

 

I really like this FAQ of our member's budgies it shows the different mutations and colors too http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/faqs/i...=126&artlang=en you can review and use as a reference too

As Elly said if the bird is not normal (like Fiby) then you don't need to add it into the description.

 

Kiky - green recessive pied hen

Fiby - normal sky blue hen

Emjay - cobalt dominant pied cock (I think DF is possible as well)

Chico - green recessive pied cock

Cherry - yellowface type 2 cinnamon oplaline hen

okay, but doesnt it have to be a type of green for chico and kiky???

Like light green, dark green, or olive green??

Edited April 21, 200718 yr by Marlony

A green (yellow-based) budgie with no dark factor will be the original very bright green; this variety is called "green" or "light green." One dark factor will result in a darker green; this variety is called "dark green." Two dark factors will result in a deep olive drab green color; this variety is called "olive."

 

So techinally it could be green or light green either is correct.

okay, thanks

 

doesnt kiky have one dark factor??

Ive seen much lighter green on other budgies.

I was wondering with Kiky if she was a dark green, it's a bit hard to tell with the flash shining off the feathers.

Click here across are the 3 different greens one thing I was told to remember was that there can be different shades of a light green before it is considered a dark and so forth. http://www.budgieplace.com/c_darkfactor.html you can click here and compare.

 

I know that Nerwen you had a color guide site?

 

As Nerwen says flash can wash out the colors and make them look brighter and lighter. If you can get a picture of her in natural light with no flash that would help .

okay ill take a natural light one... (without flash)

 

i have a little problem resizing pictures. can you do it on photobucket, or do I need to download something??

There is a free download program that I use but I don't remember where to download it from and I know you can resize them on photobucket too.

never mind, i found out how to!! thanks anyways.

Edited April 21, 200718 yr by Marlony

when you are looking at the individual picture it gives you the option right above the picture I believe

Elly, I believe 'Olive' is used to describe violet green birds.

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here is kiky without flash.

 

sry, on photobucket i can oly go 640x480.

 

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on photobucket choose the email/website size for this forum.

Edited April 21, 200718 yr by Kaz

Elly, I believe 'Olive' is used to describe violet green birds

 

In the show world it is used to describe budgies with 2 dark factors.

 

 

here is kiky without flash.

 

In that picture Kiky does look like an olive green recessive pied to me

 

Amazing how different, photos of the same bird can look.

 

 

Feathers.

Edited April 21, 200718 yr by feathers

okay thanks.

On the mutation page I use feather Olive is considered 2 dark factors, dark green is 1, and none is light green. I still will wait for another picture on my screen the green looks to bright and not the drabby green coloring of an olive . Here is what Daz has in the FAQ and the bird on my screen looks in the middle but then screens now a days (Laughing out loud) who knows http://www.mastecbase1.com/pht/indexhi.html

 

When I was learning I copy and pasted this I believe from Nerwen's post I guess that would make him an olive. Olive is a bird with 2 dark factors - in green it goes light green with no dark factors, dark green with 1 dark factor, and olive with 2 dark factors. Dark factors are inherited from their parents based on what color they are.. and how many they have.

 

and here is a link from Daz to the FAQ about the 3 greens http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=12630

 

So that is where I based my info on.

Edited April 21, 200718 yr by Elly

so its either dark green or olive right??

What do you think?

Edited April 21, 200718 yr by Marlony

I think either light or dark green because it the green is still bright and not drabby looking like the olive color is.

right now id say dark green then, because if you would actually see kiky, her green is really dark.

It looks really dark to me too, Marlon. I still think Olive.

 

 

Feathers.

I would think Olive too with that picture. Elly Olive isn't as drab looking as grey green. let me find the colour guide again.

 

okay this is from the World Budgerigar Organisation. http://www.world-budgerigar.org/

 

The top line is the dark green the bottom Olive.

 

Edited April 22, 200718 yr by Nerwen

I think it is your screen Elly, try to adjust it, as normally you are spot on, but a few times lately you have been seeing things differently to most others.