i was a judge at a bird show yesterday and i was judging aov aoc budgie

and this bird came up, i asked the owner later what it was so i will tell you later if no one can guess

 

 

sorry about the quality as i forgot my camera so i took the pics with my phone

Edited March 31, 200718 yr by parrot-breeder

isnt it a male creamo????

Yellowface double factor spangle cock?

I agree with Shawna.. a yellowface double factor spangle.

I agree yellowface DF spangle - blue cere.

Yep I agree with the Double Factor Spangle

creamino would have a pink cere if male

Looks like an ino or cremino, but I agree YF DF Spangle, as it doesn't have the red eye type cere.

I agree with Shawna too.

Shawna, cheeta, hurdybirdy, elly, norm, nerwin

 

you are all clos but there is one mutation you forgot to add it is but i can't blame you for that when io tell you what it is

 

yellowface df spangle blue

 

all the brothers and sisters are white

 

the parents were 2 blue spangles

when the bloke saw this bird he had to check his records and the birds great grandfather was a yellowface so that is were it came from

well... I would disagree to that, Yellowfaces are part of the blue family, the yellowface and blue are multiple alleles for the same locus.

Saying yellowface blue is almost a mute point. The yellowface term is not used to describe greens.

Shawna, cheeta, hurdybirdy, elly, norm, nerwin

 

you are all clos but there is one mutation you forgot to add it is but i can't blame you for that when io tell you what it is

 

yellowface df spangle blue

 

all the brothers and sisters are white

 

the parents were 2 blue spangles

when the bloke saw this bird he had to check his records and the birds great grandfather was a yellowface so that is were it came from

 

 

 

Yep, I agree with Nerwen, when describing a yellowface, unless you're stating an actual shade of blue... ie skyblue, cobalt blue, or mauve, by stating just 'blue' in the mutation, it's a mute point. As Yellowface cannot occur in the green series as they are yellow base.

 

And in the case of the above bird, you can't tell how many light or dark factors the bird carries.

 

And also I just reread your posts... I am a bit puzzled as to the results of the actual pairing. Since Yellowface are dominants over whiteface, to get a yellowface baby, one of the parents need to be a yellowface. Now in saying that, it would mean that one of the parents is in fact a double factor yellowface (which is visually white face, but carries two yellowface gene...), however, for a parent to be be a double factor yellowface, ALL baby would turn out yellowface.

 

Am I missing something? Anyone? am I off base again?? Nerwen? Elly? Anyone?? Thanks.

Edited April 1, 200718 yr by Cheeta

I agree Cheeta hmm

I was thinking the same :budgiedance:

i was a judge at a bird show yesterday and i was judging aov aoc budgie

and this bird came up, i asked the owner later what it was so i will tell you later if no one can guess

 

 

sorry about the quality as i forgot my camera so i took the pics with my phone

 

It seems very odd to me that you asked the owner of the bird what it was at a bird show. Wouldn't it have been entered under its category and type and therefore "as a judge" you would know what it was by the number on the lable on its cage ? A "judge" would be trained to know all budgie mutations.

If that cage was used in a bird show over here it the bird would have been disqualified as the cage is filthy, rusty and the placement of label and drinker is all in the wrong place.

Quote.....When you bring the birds in to be judged, you hand them to the stewards and they inspect the cages for markings. If the cage is damaged and not in good order they can reject it.

 

Was it a pet budgie show ? Which show was it ? :budgiedance:

Edited April 1, 200718 yr by Kaz

This bird should not be in ASV AOV Class 47 / 49 . It should have been entered in DF Spangle Class 33. It should have been wrong classed

okay showing technicality aside... Parrot Breeder, do you know for sure that's the outcome of the pairing? As you can see, it is not making sense to some of us here. :hap: I'm interested to find out.