I would be interested in anyone letting me know what to call this bird [colour classification] I know it's a Yellow faced blue probably Type 2, I feel it also is a type of Opaline, then I wonder if it's a clear wing of some type or maybe Spangle? I saw a picture of a bird similar on a UK site, they called it a Rainbow.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s133/gr...66/Rainbow1.jpg

 

I have just paired it with a light green cinnamon hen, they have 5 babies just hatching, to see what results I get.

Edited March 15, 200718 yr by Norm

He's very pretty. I cannot tell if he is spangle or clearwing -- I think opaline spangle, but if he is clearwing then he would be considered a "rainbow".

 

The bars on the cage appear to be rusty -- which can be very unhealthy or perhaps even deadly if the bird(s) chew on them.

Edited March 15, 200718 yr by HurdyBirdy

He's very pretty. I cannot tell if he is spangle or clearwing -- I think opaline spangle, but if he is clearwing then he would be considered a "rainbow".

 

The bars on the cage appear to be rusty -- which can be very unhealthy or perhaps even deadly if the bird(s) chew on them.

 

 

Thanks for that. Yeah I have been keeping birds for a long time, so some wires are rusty, I haven't had any problems yet, but thanks for the advice.

Edited March 15, 200718 yr by Norm

I say he is just a opaline spangle yellowface type 2.

 

I can see the faint lines on the flight feathers, if he was a clearing the wings would be very faint colouring.

 

Rainbows I believe also have to be a pied.

Hmm what about opaline grey-wing spangle??...just figured id give it a try. Beautiful bird by the way.

The official classification of a rainbow is a type 2 yellowface opaline whitewing blue. They do not have to be pied. Your bird looks more like a spangle, and is very pretty. If you noticed also, your bird has white cheek flashes...a rainbows would be blue like normal.

Opps sorry about that, I wonder where I got the pied idea from :sad:

Hi again…I have had some results already from this bird & his light green cinnamon hen…they laid 8 eggs, all hatched, I fostered 3 with other pairs that didn’t get many young. I don’t believe in fostering young from birds, that don’t feed or breed well, but have no problem in easing the work on successful breeders.

I have been lucky, I thought with this male I maybe wouldn’t get any young the same as him in the first batch, as maybe part of the genetics that made him was recessive, but already it looks like I have two young the same as him [maybe females if it’s the result of the opaline]. One green spangle, so he definitely is a spangle, two normal cobalts & one that looks like cinnamon, so he must be split. The others are too young as yet, I will post some pictures soon as they get a few more feathers, I hope your interested regards…Norm.

 

PS. That's twice I got Warn: [0%] at the bottom left...am I doing something wrong is my post too long???

Edited March 28, 200718 yr by Norm

Warning 0% should be there if you received any warning about behavior or something incorrect on our boards the bar and it will read 0% unless you have been warned. Admin would tell you about the warning. So you haven't done anything wrong. Admin is the only one that gives warning .

 

Congrats on your success

Edited March 28, 200718 yr by Elly

Yes your right any opalines will be hens, spangle is a dominant gene an yellowface is dominant to the blue gene.

 

As Elly said the warn bar is aways there and you can only see your own.

I have been looking further on the web on some UK sites & I have seen some pictures of Rainbows; according to them a Rainbow is an YF2 Opaline Clearwing. My cock bird looks exactly the same as the pictures, but if it was a Clearwing [recessive] I don’t think I would have got some young like him unless the hen was split for Clearwing & because one of the young [in picture] is a Spangle, the clearness in my cocks wing, must be from the Spangle gene.

I took this picture yesterday, I found it was hard getting young birds of that age to cooperate with me, every time I went to click the camera they ran all over the place & over each other…this was the best I could do. Also to my shock as I went to take the picture, I found the Spangle youngster already out of the nest & feathers scalped from it’s head & on looking in the nest quite a few had feathers taken from their heads. After taking the pictures I decided to put all the young out of the nest, on the floor of the breeding box, as I suspected the mother was doing it, but later in the day I saw the cock bird attacking them & now have returned them to the nest & removed the cock.

In the picture we have I think…from L to R…Cobalt Rainbow?…Green Spangle…Skyblue Rainbow?…Cinnamon Grey…Two Cobalt Normals...there are two more young fostered, but no pin feathes as yet so don't know what they are.

 

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s133/gr...66/Younguns.jpg

They are very cute, but I don't see any rainbows. I can't really see much of the one at the top left, other than maybe s/he is probably blue. The spangle at the upper right does look sky-bluish on my monitor, and the yellow with the green rump (outstretched wings) looks pied.

 

I see where they have been plucked a bit. Rainbow did that to his second clutch as he wanted to do nothing but breed, and I think he wanted the little ones out of the way so he could be about his business. I thought it was the hen at first too, but then I noticed a bald spot on the back of the hen. He was the only one with feathers in the back of his head, so it was obvious who the culprit was then. Poor frustrated budgie! He only plucked a small area on all of them, but obviously it couldn't continue, and as the pair was raising the second clutch I was going to seperate them anyway to prevent a third. I ended up removing the nest box and moving the hen to a cage by herself for a few days as she just looked exhausted. Rainbow had no problems feeding the young, and he stopped plucking them with Skittles in another cage. I had to move them in with Skittles after several days as he was beginning to get amorous with the babies when they begged food...you just never know what will happen, do you?

Whitewing is a term also used for a blue clearwing. Spangles and clearwings look very similar to an untrained eye.

 

I see 4 spangles (two yellowfaces one green a a blue) and two normals. Clearwings are part of the dilute gene family and their flight feathers have no markings on them (if a very good clearwing) or they are a pale grey. These birds have a black fine line.

Here’s some pictures of some Spangle young I got from this pair, now that they have grown back their feathers after being plucked. They produced two YF2 Opaline Spangles, one Sky blue the other cobalt [hens]… Two Sky blue Spangles, one Green spangle, two Normal cobalt & one Sky blue normal, eight in all, three were fostered to make it easier for the parents.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s133/gr...66/Spangle2.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s133/gr...anglegreen1.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s133/gr...lueSpangle2.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s133/gr...BlueSpangle.jpg

This picture shows one of the YF2 Opaline Spangles & one of the Sky blue spangles, both look the same.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s133/gr...twospangles.jpg

They are all stunning, I tend to favor the yellow face blues spanges (I wish we had them here in our area), they are gorgeous.

I would be interested in anyone letting me know what to call this bird [colour classification] I know it's a Yellow faced blue probably Type 2, I feel it also is a type of Opaline, then I wonder if it's a clear wing of some type or maybe Spangle? I saw a picture of a bird similar on a UK site, they called it a Rainbow.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s133/gr...66/Rainbow1.jpg

 

I have just paired it with a light green cinnamon hen, they have 5 babies just hatching, to see what results I get.

 

 

might it be a dilute?

The coloring is too strong to be a dilute, dilutes are a sofer coloration the body is 50% or more lighter then a regular bird.

 

I found this about rainbows: definition of a rainbow is a yellowface opaline whitewing blue from Ann aka rainbow

 

Do you have a better picture of the back of the bird?

 

 

I found this about rainbows: definition of a rainbow is a yellowface opaline whitewing blue from Ann aka rainbow Here is a picture of her Rainbow http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Rai...1/Rainbow_1.jpg

Edited May 6, 200718 yr by Elly

I would be interested in anyone letting me know what to call this bird [colour classification] I know it's a Yellow faced blue probably Type 2, I feel it also is a type of Opaline, then I wonder if it's a clear wing of some type or maybe Spangle? I saw a picture of a bird similar on a UK site, they called it a Rainbow.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s133/gr...66/Rainbow1.jpg

 

I have just paired it with a light green cinnamon hen, they have 5 babies just hatching, to see what results I get.

 

 

might it be a dilute?

 

Hi Marlony:

If you read the previous posts you will see we decided what colour the bird is...It's a Yellow faced Sky blue Opaline Spangle. Which has been proven with the breeding results, it produced four Spangles two similar to himself & two normal blue Spangles, Spangle being dominant. It looks very similar in colour to birds called Rainbows, but the Rainbow is a Yellow Faced Opaline Blue Clear Wing, the Clear wing part which is recessive.

Edited May 6, 200718 yr by Norm

oh, sry sorry. I didnt see that.

Edited May 12, 200718 yr by Daz

He is gorgeous..

Well it happened again, as soon as the young in the nest were almost fully feathered, the cock attacked them, this time worse than before, this time he even drew blood. So he’s off… gone back to the aviary. They only hatched three this time, it was strange the first batch was 8 eggs all fertile, then the next batch 8 again, but none fertile, maybe it was because I took him away till the chicks left the nest & then returned him, before she began to lay, but maybe it was too late to get them fertile. Then this last batch only three hatched out of 8. Anyway at least I got some nice birds from them; I hope none of them get his viscous streak. Luckily it’s rare for cocks to be as viscous, mainly it’s the hens, Aly had that cock that was attached by the hen. Luckily that’s rare also. I like this cocks colour, so now I have 11 young from them, not all like him, but some nice colours, so hopefully I can breed from there, I don’t think he will get another chance.

All the chicks from the first clutch look great. What are the colours of the second round? More like him?

All the chicks from the first clutch look great. What are the colours of the second round? More like him?

 

In the second clutch I have one Normal Green Spangle, one YF2 Blue Spangle & a Normal Green. So I only got the two hens exactly like him from the first batch, but I shouldn't have any trouble breeding them, one already laid an egg in a nest I had in the avairy & she hasn't even got her adult plumage yet, so I put her in a cage where there is no nest. I'm thinking to mate them to Opaline cocks.