i will tomarrow after school ill go too all the pet stores to find one

 

It would be worthwhile. Not only would it help with this clutch but be of great use to add to any future breeding pairs.

your right

along the same line as calcium for reptile, there are a lot of calcium supplement for cats and dogs that are great for birds as well. look in the cats and dogs section of your local petstore or pet supplies. good luck with your babies.

I found a website, they talk about liquid calcium plus - you can even order it there (on the bottom of the page on the left). There is phone number, you can call the lady and ask where to get this.

(I'm not sure if this is a good make, but it's in US, so it could be easier to get for you)

Here is the link

http://www.ladygouldianfinch.com/features_calcium.mgi

 

Hope this helps

 

Good luck with your babies, it's really not nice to see a budgie with splayed legs. In one pet shop here they tried to sell one (I didn't know it's splayed legs at the time), but I let them know they must take the budgie to the vet, luckilly they did.I don't know what happened to this budgie thought. The budgie looked very sad, he was just sitting on the bottom of the cage eating the seeds from the floor. He couldn's do anything just sit. It was really sad

Hope you'll give your babies treatment in time, so it doesn't happen to them

Edited March 8, 200718 yr by Zebra

this morning i woke up and saw that the mom had plucked one of the babies fully bald and was out of the nest on the floor

do you think that the sponge made it look like an outsider to her thats why she killed it?

Sorry, I don't understand, in one sentence you say the baby is plucked and in the next sentence the baby is killed? Is one of the babes dead?

i was ondering the same? the baby is dead now?? so sad poor thing didnt have a very good chance .. lil fella

i found the baby plucked and on the cage floor dead would that mean that the mom thought it was stranger with the sponges?

No, I don't think the sponges were responsible for the babe's death.

what would be i went to buy the supplement they didn't carry any so now i gotta wait till tomorrow to go to another city to the avain vet

I don't think the sponge splint would be the cause of the mother attacking the baby. She would more likely stop feeding it than kill it over the splints. You have two chicks in splints haven't you ? How is the other one ?

If a mother is going to attack a chick like this it's usually due to a chick being over demanding for food and begging. Also at the age these chicks are some mothers want them out of the box to lay another clutch of eggs. Another cause can be, if you are removing the chicks for any length of time and then replacing them she may see them as a stranger. Who knows whats in the mind of a budgie ? It's hard to say why this happened, but in a clutch of other babies, only one chick attacked ? You would need to watch her closely with the others. Is Dad feeding the babies ? Can he finish raising the rest of the chicks ?

Edited March 9, 200718 yr by Bubbles

the dads feeding all of them and their are no signs of aggression to the other baby but the first one she killed. oh and plus the oldest is like getting out and the one with the splints is doing good

i grinned cuttle bone in the food and gave the dad some broccoli and lettuce

the dads feeding all of them and their are no signs of aggression to the other baby but the first one she killed. oh and plus the oldest is like getting out and the one with the splints is doing good

i grinned cuttle bone in the food and gave the dad some broccoli and lettuce

 

Sounds fine budgie lover and you are trying to make things right. An aggressive attack on a chick is often due to a needy chick, one which is too noisy or too demanding. Secondly the parents wanting babies out of the nestbox to breed 2nd round of babies.

But since this has happened, you must know you are going to have to watch this nest of babies very carefully for more signs of aggression from the mother assuming it was the mother. Dads have been known to kill babies too. Which parent had blood on them ?

Edited March 9, 200718 yr by Bubbles

none but their was some blood on the nest box which i took off with wet paper towel and yea i check the babies like 10-15 times a day

Oh, i'm sorry you are having so many problems with this clutch! I hope your remaining bubs do well! The advice given is good!

and now again i found the second baby with the splinted legs dead on the cage floor

this was my first time breeding and it didn't go so good

I am sorry you have had this trouble. BUT...I am going to tell you the truth here.

1. you should have had parents and babies on a calcium supplement, before and during breeding, amongst other things (good food, good breeding condition etc ) so that they were in the best of health to have and raise babies.

2. You should have had a concave or nesting materials in the nesting box from the beginning ( whether or not the parent kept removing it, you would have had to keep replacing it ).

 

With at least those few things in place you most likely would have never had these chicks with a calcium deficiency, splay legs, and not had to interfere so much with their nesting box. Taking babies in and out of nesting box excessively can stress the parents and must be done either very quickly or on a one at a time basis.

Parents must be under stress for this to have happened as it did.

We can all be sorry for you here that you have gone through this. I am. But many on here have advised you earlier and more often than not you choose to ignore good advice until its too late. I would stress to you, that budgie breeding should only be undertaken with full knowledge of how to deal with all eventalities, and not have every little thing have to wait until you can either afford the extras mid-breeding, or till you can go to the appropriate shops. Certain things ....nesting materials, supplements, and foods should be at hand BEFORE you begin breeding. Knowledge should be gained and researched. Money for vets available, and parents who can assist where need be with both money and time to help you.

You may have entered into this breeding in a very light hearted manner and not thought fully about those things. You are young and a hope you can learn for the benefit of your birds.

Edited March 11, 200718 yr by Bubbles

Very good points Bubbles and as I have said before, budgie breeding is SERIOUS business, it is not a science experiment to be taken lightly. As well as the actual breeding, rearing process, thought must be given as to where the potential offspring will go and to make sure they are going into responsible households and not just sold with no thought past the monetary value. :ygbudgie:

both of you guys are correct thats the same thing my grandpa said

Your Grandpa is a very wise man. :greenb:

yup so i still got two of my babies growing and after a year i will feed them nd make them really healthy and breed a new pair of budgies

none but their was some blood on the nest box which i took off with wet paper towel and yea i check the babies like 10-15 times a day

 

Budgie lover, I am sorry this has happened, but I would guess this is why your hen attacked and killed her babies - if you really checked on them that often, you were causing her undue stress! You only need to check on them once or twice per day and allow the parents to get on with the business of raising babies. She would have been so nervous with that kind of interference...even if you didn't touch them, every time you opened the box to look at them you were probably inadvertently making your hen VERY nervous. Eventually I think she killed them because conditions were not right for her to raise a family. Especially as this was her first brood.

 

I would wait awhile and rethink what you hope to accomplish by breeding, and not allow her to breed again for another year. If you allow her to breed again, you will need to anticipate that she will be nervous about it again because of her initial experience and allow her space the next time. If she attacks her brood the next time she should not be allowed to breed ever again, as it is just too stressful for all involved.

Edited March 11, 200718 yr by Rainbow

this female will not breed anymore shes very tame so i will be playing with her