I read in just about all of these topic that this is being bred with this 1 and that 1 being bred with that 1, Is that how it must be done or can i just breed my boys with my girls?

I don't really have any practical knowledge in breeding but have read just about all the posts in here and don't have any reason to breed other than pets, so i was just wondering if it was okay to just breed my budgies as they pair till i feel happy with my flock size?

 

any opinion would be apreciated

basically people chooses to breed different mutations to get a desired mutation. Bubbles, one of the mod here, she lets her birds (not her show birds but the pet size budgies) pair up themselves and let them breed. The most important thing with breeding is that you have to do a whole lot of research, ask a whole lot of questions, and make sure you're not breeding relations (inbreeding). makes sure you're prepared for all the things that might wrong.

I quess my question to you is are you asking should you be knowledgable before you start? The answer to that question is as much as possible.

 

Breeding budgie is simple the outcomes are not always favorable.

 

There can be deformed beaks, legs can be splayed, the hen or cock could attack the babies, the hen or cock could decide not to feed the babies. Would you know what to do? Are you willing to vet the babies if necessary?

 

It is a matter of responsibility and knowledge. Through experience you will learn alot but it is advise to be armed with knowledge, what would you do answers if they happen.

 

There have been many a first clutches that are successful and many that have failed. Are you willing to stay up and hand feed and this needs to be 3 hours in the beginning. Do you have those resources.

 

I am not trying to be a downer but you asked should I just put them together and this is my opinion not until you have a plan in place.

 

Oh and the babies are to be pets, yours, or do you have homes in mind. If not do you know how to find GOOD home not just homes but homes where you know they will not be throw away pets.

 

There is so much more then just putting a boy and girl together.

I see things from both angles as I breed for pet budgies and I breed for show budgies. As Cheeta said I sometimes let my pet type budgies choose their own partners, but if they do pair up and the result is two very small and weak budgie, I most likely will not let them breed together. I have done so in the past and the babies are way too small and weak to live good lives. It's best to help a budgie to breed to it's best possible partner, even if you have to choose for the budgies. It's cute watching two budgies "fall in love" or "lust" with each other, but any budgie will breed with another given the right conditions.....breeding cage and nestbox. You can choose them a better partner and breed better baby budgies for the future.

I have seen the tiniest little budgies sold through petshops and indeed have visited some backyard "bird breeding mills" that would shock people to their very core. There is no care taken with which budgie breeds with which, whether they are related or not, whether they have health or vigor, diseases, or hereditary problems. Birds I have seen in "bird mills" are breeding with evident tumours and advanced scalyface, mucky eyes, and vents, rats and mice in plain sight around and through the breeding cages, dead and rotting budgie carcasses on the floors... and mostly from these come the petshop budgies. I know that I am approached by petshops and bird dealers offering to pay me $5 a budgie baby. I wont sell a budgie for $5. Mine are worth more than that. Anyone who sells their babies for a mere $5 doesnt care how they bred them. Its from these bird breeding "mills" that the tiny but pretty coloured petshop budgies come.

Unless you have or know the parents and grandparents of your birds your future babies are an unknown element healthwise or longevity.

It's great to get pretty colours show up in a nest, but also the thrill of seeing a big and healthy baby budgie fledge from a nest in an ordinary colour such as green, is more special. The health being utmost consideration.

If you try and learn enough to help make your own budgies partner choice a sound decision healthwise, you may end up with some babies worth keeping. Then if you keep them you will have to legring them and watch them in case siblings breed with each other and start off a cycle all over again. The thing to avoid is breeding bad faults back into the budgie.

The good thing about show breeding is that the health and longevity of not only the paired budgies comes into play but the health and longevity of its parents, grand parent and great grandparents as well.

With breeding, ultimately the choice is yours. Experienced breeders can advise, but at the end of the day it's your choice. :budgiedance:

Edited January 23, 200718 yr by Bubbles

I agree, please please consider breeding for healthy/longevity above anything else. It's probably the hardest trait(s) to breed for, but very much needed.

I agree, please please consider breeding for healthy/longevity above anything else. It's probably the hardest trait(s) to breed for, but very much needed.

 

 

Thanks very much guys all that information was very helpful i was going to keep them all for myself or maybe a family member but not for a pet store, i was just unsure if there was any problem with breeding say my yf blue with say a green. i know all their backgrounds as i bought them from a breeder who does show budgies and all mine are not what he calls show quality. He keeps detailed records of who buys his birds and where they go.so i have all the info on my flock that i need i think, i have the money and the time for a vet or hand feeding, (being a wildlife carer i'm up every 3 hours anyway)so what else is left i have this site on hand and have all the books i can borrow.(taking in all the info i can get hold of)can you all think of anything else i want to make sure i do this right before i start.

 

Thanks very much you have all been a great help!!

I agree, please please consider breeding for healthy/longevity above anything else. It's probably the hardest trait(s) to breed for, but very much needed.

 

 

Thanks very much guys all that information was very helpful i was going to keep them all for myself or maybe a family member but not for a pet store, i was just unsure if there was any problem with breeding say my yf blue with say a green. i know all their backgrounds as i bought them from a breeder who does show budgies and all mine are not what he calls show quality. He keeps detailed records of who buys his birds and where they go.so i have all the info on my flock that i need i think, i have the money and the time for a vet or hand feeding, (being a wildlife carer i'm up every 3 hours anyway)so what else is left i have this site on hand and have all the books i can borrow.(taking in all the info i can get hold of)can you all think of anything else i want to make sure i do this right before i start.

 

Thanks very much you have all been a great help!!

All sounds great then to me. Green I am sure is dominant, unless your green is split for blue, which may give you some other colours in your babies. I mentioned the pet store topic as most of us get birds from pet stores and their background is an unknown element for breeding stock.

Enjoy your time here. We are happy to have you

Hi, I am new to the forum but felt I had to comment on the costs of birds. I have only been breeding for about a year and recently sold a number of Budgies. I won't sell any of my birds under 3 months and I do sell for $5 a bird. I don't sell bulk numbers, nor to dealers or pet shops. My birds are healthy and there enviroment clean. I sell at the chosen amount as I want everyone to have the opportunity to enjoy these wonderful creatures and try and deter people from buying from the pet stores at extortianate prices for poor quality birds. I also recently started handing out brochures and a contact number to purchases to try and assist them with there concerns or questions. Not all people that sell birds at what others consider cheap are "bird breedin mills"

Edited March 15, 200718 yr by Nerwen

Hi, I am new to the forum but felt I had to comment on the costs of birds. I have only been breeding for about a year and recently sold a number of Budgies. I won't sell any of my birds under 3 months and I do sell for $5 a bird. I don't sell bulk numbers, nor to dealers or pet shops. My birds are healthy and there enviroment clean. I sell at the chosen amount as I want everyone to have the opportunity to enjoy these wonderful creatures and try and deter people from buying from the pet stores at extortianate prices for poor quality birds. I also recently started handing out brochures and a contact number to purchases to try and assist them with there concerns or questions. Not all people that sell birds at what others consider cheap are "bird breedin mills"

 

I must rephrase my statement, as obviously there are people such as your self who do care about how they breed the birds and it isnt based on price. I am sorry if I have offended you. I was merely upset over some budgie breeding mills I have actually come across where they didnt care quite as much as some of us, and where the $5 budgie was their excuse for not providing basic needs or care and attention.

Happy to have you aboard our forum. Look forward to hearing more from you Brummie and seeing any piks you might like to show. :hap:

I have sold birds for $0. I am about to donate 10 Birds to the old peoples homes. On the other hand I have bought birds for $120.00au and currently thinking of buying a bird on a private sale for just under $300.00au. The last main auction I have been to four birds were sold for over $3,000.00au each.

 

I breed for show, for quality not for qantity. I haven't sold a bird for money in nearly 6 months.. I am currently registered with the Local Council as a professional breeder and do it for the pleasure not the money.