Posted January 22, 200718 yr Hi guys, I am wanting to know what success people have had in breeding Albinos and Lutinos. You know, things like: What is the best colour to put them with to achieve cleaner white and yellow colours. Also what type of bird (such as opaline, normal etc) to use to increase their sizes. I have heard that breeding Ino to Ino decreases the size a fair bit. Love to hear of your experiences. Paul
January 22, 200718 yr C'mon you genetics buffs...do your stuff here and help Paul out. The only thing I have heard from show budgie types is to use greys and violets to help bring out a stronger lutino colour. Am I right or wrong ?
January 22, 200718 yr The Lutino experiment we heard about on the weekend was breeding violet factor birds to a lutino, but it washed out the colour. The suggestion was that this was because there was no dark grey factor in it to intensify the colour. From what I understood, grey is used a fair bit to increase size.
January 22, 200718 yr Author The Lutino experiment we heard about on the weekend was breeding violet factor birds to a lutino, but it washed out the colour. The suggestion was that this was because there was no dark grey factor in it to intensify the colour. From what I understood, grey is used a fair bit to increase size. Thanks for that feathers, appreciate your imput Paul
January 22, 200718 yr ummm I'm not an expert, but I have heard and read somewhere that if you use grey birds, it'll take out that blue hue a blue series albino gets, and I think Opaline birds are pretty commonly used to increase the size. And of course Bubbles have told me that violet increases the brilliantness of the yellow in lutino. I have yet to double check that one.
January 22, 200718 yr you may want to PM karen (that is her user name) she breed lutino/ino's :ausb:. Violets are bit on the slight side, hath replied to another post about breeding for size so they are not desired to use when you are looking for size. Recessives tend to be slight too so they are not used to increase the size. As for increasing the color intensity I don't have a clue to be honest and would have to do some reading up to find out the answer. I suggest going to the PINNED topics in the show section, find lutino/albino spec and ask this same question under that post. I believe you will get more of a response there as some members only read limited posts. :hap:
January 23, 200718 yr Author you may want to PM karen (that is her user name) she breed lutino/ino's . Violets are bit on the slight side, hath replied to another post about breeding for size so they are not desired to use when you are looking for size. Recessives tend to be slight too so they are not used to increase the size. As for increasing the color intensity I don't have a clue to be honest and would have to do some reading up to find out the answer. I suggest going to the PINNED topics in the show section, find lutino/albino spec and ask this same question under that post. I believe you will get more of a response there as some members only read limited posts. Ta for that lovely
January 23, 200718 yr The Lutino experiment we heard about on the weekend was breeding violet factor birds to a lutino, but it washed out the colour. The suggestion was that this was because there was no dark grey factor in it to intensify the colour. Interesting feathers, I remember reading (on here) that violet give a deeper hue to the yellow on lutinos. I have a feeling Daz told me that but I could be wrong. Grey and Greygreen ( i think) are used to help with size and Opaline for head shape and spots (which don't help with inos) I have heard and read somewhere that if you use grey birds, it'll take out that blue hue a blue series albino gets Your right, Hath made a post about that in the show area.
January 23, 200718 yr Interesting feathers, I remember reading (on here) that violet give a deeper hue to the yellow on lutinos. I have a feeling Daz told me that but I could be wrong. That was the feeling of the breeders on the weekend too, but they found without the dark factor the colour was too washed out. If they dark or grey factor was used as well, then it would intensify the colour.
January 23, 200718 yr Well done Nerwen. The ino gene removes the blue pigmentation leaving the yellow ground colouring, It also effects the Dark factor so how else do you darken the birds colouring except with the violet factor. It gives a buttercup colour. Grey greens can be used to increase sizing of the bird. Opalines are great for Spots and head. Cinnamon helps the feathering. Now an Albino is the combination of two genes the Blue gene and the Ino gene. The ino gene removes the blue pigments to produce yellow and the blue gene removes the yellow to produce white, but in some birds produce a blue suffusion. The breeding of an Albino to a grey, as Hath said, helps to remove the suffusion and give a whiter bird.
January 23, 200718 yr Author :budgiedance: Well done Nerwen. The ino gene removes the blue pigmentation leaving the yellow ground colouring, It also effects the Dark factor so how else do you darken the birds colouring except with the violet factor. It gives a buttercup colour. Grey greens can be used to increase sizing of the bird. Opalines are great for Spots and head. Cinnamon helps the feathering. Now an Albino is the combination of two genes the Blue gene and the Ino gene. The ino gene removes the blue pigments to produce yellow and the blue gene removes the yellow to produce white, but in some birds produce a blue suffusion. The breeding of an Albino to a grey, as Hath said, helps to remove the suffusion and give a whiter bird. Ta for that Daz Interesting feathers, I remember reading (on here) that violet give a deeper hue to the yellow on lutinos. I have a feeling Daz told me that but I could be wrong. That was the feeling of the breeders on the weekend too, but they found without the dark factor the colour was too washed out. If they dark or grey factor was used as well, then it would intensify the colour. Thanks for that info
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