We have, many a time, debated over what actual type of budgie Radar was. Some said he was grey green, some said olive. His blue feet were discussed. The fact that he produced babies that were mauves, violets, opalines etc.

 

Previous quoted debates.....

Nerwen .....So Radar is split for blue I think the violet came from him (look at the cheek spots) and he would the the one carring the opaline.

Hope you get a few like him too.

 

Daz .....He looks like an dark factor green (olive) not a grey green.

 

Nerwen.... But I say Radar is a grey/green not olive. Becase his tail is black not blue. ( ***his actual tail is blue by the way....Bubbles edit early photos didnt show the blue tail well***) That is a sign of a grey green bird. If the male is split blue there is a chance for blue babies.

Ahh when the violet gene is mixed with the green ( or normal) gene you get a bird that looks like an Olive. We could be wrong about what Radar is but I do think he is a grey-green.

 

Bubbles.....This is a quote from the "Genetics of Violet Factor"...... You can usually tell a green budgie has at least one violet factor. The violet darkens the green body color and sometimes causes violet to show in the feathers near the feet and vent. The feet may also look very dark or purple.

Check out Radars feet

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So, at the bird show today I was talking with one of the judges and it turns out that this particular judge was the breeder of Radar that I had been trying to track down for ages and not succeeded in doing so. I asked him about Radar and believe it or not, he remembered the bird without having to go to a legring code. He said that Radars father was a grey green bird and the mother a violet opaline.

Mystery solved !!

Edited February 12, 200718 yr by Bubbles

he is gorgeous congrats Nerwen!

absolutely gorgeous Radar is

cool thing is is is split for blue and opaline neat to know a little background

 

I can't remember did you breed him yet?

Has it been solved??

 

The fact that you can now tell me his tail is blue and not black means he isn't a grey-green even if is father was one. I think this is a green-violet. He got the green gene from his father and the violet gene from mum. these birds look like an olive bird.

 

It's great that you found the breeder Karen, seems like you had a ball at the show:)

So he is a violet Dark green.

 

He is carring the Violet gene and a single factor dark factor.

Now the fun thing is to find out if he is.

Lv D or L Dv.

Is the violet gene caried on the light factor or the Dark Factor.

Has it been solved??

 

The fact that you can now tell me his tail is blue and not black means he isn't a grey-green even if is father was one. I think this is a green-violet. He got the green gene from his father and the violet gene from mum. these birds look like an olive bird.

 

It's great that you found the breeder Karen, seems like you had a ball at the show:)

I thought he was a green violet but as everyone knows I am not a full bottle on genetics and leave it up to you guys...the experts. You can only go from photos and descriptions in order to help me work it out. Radars tailfeathers are the darkest shade of royal blue, like a navy blue. Meeting his breeder was the best part of the day as it answered questions I have had in my head about Radar.

 

cool thing is is is split for blue and opaline neat to know a little background

 

I can't remember did you breed him yet?

Yes, Lovey. He has consistantly produced beautiful babies ......male and female opaline violets, mauves, dark green normals, and a grey green opaline.

Edited November 11, 200618 yr by Bubbles

did you make up post about his babies? I need a refresher I do have mommy brain

 

See there your gut feeling was right great job Kaz

did you make up post about his babies? I need a refresher I do have mommy brain

 

See there your gut feeling was right great job Kaz

I will try and pull some photos of his babies later. I didnt keep any, but I will be breeding him again and keep some of the violet boys if any and any darker greens.

Appreciate it!

I thought he was a green violet but as everyone knows I am not a full bottle on genetics

 

You did great Karen and you know more than you think

 

Now the fun thing is to find out if he is.

Lv D or L Dv.

 

Yes, Lovey. He has consistantly produced beautiful babies ......male and female opaline violets, mauves, dark green normals, and a grey green opaline.

 

The fact that no skyblues have appeared does it possibly mean he is a Lv D ??

may have to read the violet thread again.

What is Lv D ??

okay Nerwen what do those initials mean?

In searching for photos of Radars babies I came across this photo which clearly shows Radar has a blue tail

I think the initials Lv D just refer to the Light and Dark Factor.

 

i.e in this case the Violet(v) gene is carried on the Light factor(L).

 

If it was L Dv then the violet gene is carried on the Dark Factor(D).

 

Am I sorta right? (Laughing out loud)... I do hate genetics!

 

By the way bubbles he is absolutely gorgeous! Glad you finally figured out what he is.

I am ready to breed Radar again, but his partner of choice ...a large mauve hen has turned out to be an egg eater, so I must find him a lovely bride.

he looks much bluer in the body in that picture looking more like a YF2 wow.

He is gorgeous.

he looks much bluer in the body in that picture looking more like a YF2 wow.

He is gorgeous.

The flash is misrepresenting his body colour. He is more an olive like the first photos not the colour like in the last photo at all. But his tail is still navy blue.

hate that flash that does it to Merlin too big time it is so hard to capture the darker colors. Pretty is true to color in flash or not flash.

the blue showing like that would be from the violet gene as well.

 

What is Lv D ??

:(Laughing out loud): sorry about that I was posing a question to daz more than anything but Desi is right.

Can please explain for the rest of us in simple terms please ? You know "budgie Genetics For Dummies Part One" :ausb:

 

Here is a picture of radars blue tail

I caught Radar who is in excellent condition and introduced him to Olive who also is in excellent conditon and they are smooching in a breeders box.

"budgie Genetics For Dummies Part One"

well something like this would be Part 151

 

http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=12367

There is the info daz put up.

Edited November 12, 200618 yr by Nerwen

I think the initials Lv D just refer to the Light and Dark Factor.

 

i.e in this case the Violet(v) gene is carried on the Light factor(L).

 

If it was L Dv then the violet gene is carried on the Dark Factor(D).

 

Am I sorta right? lol... I do hate genetics!

 

By the way bubbles he is absolutely gorgeous! Glad you finally figured out what he is.

 

Desi that is absolutely correct... Did you know this or get it from reading my post on Violets

 

 

Nerwen to answer your question on Skyblues. What was the pairing again and the outcome?

Radar is making babies with Swift. What do you think they will have ?? I don't think Swift is split to blue.

SWIFT

RADAR

.....I will give you a little hint....we have 4 babies and out of those is 2 inos. Radars breeder was surprised to hear we have inos. Said there was no history of inos in Radars breeding going back to great grandparents. There is cinnamon in Radars breeding too apparently.

Anyway, at the Show Budgie club meeting on Sunday when we were discussing green budgies we also discussed Radar. Another breeder who knew where Radars breeder's stock came from back then reminded him that he got the great grandparents from abreeder who bred Texas Clearbodies. He said that is where Radars ino comes in. So, I think its great, that show breeders go back as far as they do in keeping records of breed lines so you can track a birds history.

Edited March 1, 200718 yr by Bubbles

I think it is neat you can go back to the people who bred Rader and they can go back that is neat in itself