Hello Everyone,

 

My lutino hen, Aleda, has laid her first clutch and now has 3 adorable babies. The dad, Adenydd, is a blue, type I yellow face, clearflighted dominant pied, and opaline. Am I correct in thinking that any males from this pair will be split to ino? (I would eventually like to breed some inos). The more research I do the more unsure I am as to how the rest of the male characteristics apply. I am assuming that the chicks will be green, unless mom is hiding a blue gene. Should half of the chicks be opaline? (Since there are only 3 chicks I’d like to see the one that’s only half opaline!) I suppose that I could just wait a couple of weeks and then I’d know for sure what they are going to look like… But the guessing is so much fun! I don’t have any recent pictures, but here is a link to an old picture just so you can see what the parents look like.

 

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/padoula/DSCF0049.jpg

 

Thanks in advance for any help. ~ PAdoula

no opalines the male would be split to opaline

yes the males would be split to ino (lutino)

you are right about the green gene

 

You will get clearflight dominant pieds greens possible blues if split. You could get a lutino if the dad is split to it too. And anything else they could both be hiding. Nice surprises. Keep us updated.

Quick question Lovey. I thought if the dad was opaline then the daughters would be too. I will understand this stuff eventually.(Laughing out loud) So what does it take to get an opaline?Do both parents need to be opaline?

Shell

Edited November 10, 200618 yr by Shellball

Shell you are right I read the post wrong thinking the mom was

so any opaline babies will be females. Thank you!!

Edited November 10, 200618 yr by lovey

Wow I was right once! (Laughing out loud)

awe come on now - I remember correcting Nerwen once (Laughing out loud) and I was excited (isn't that terrible) don't tell her (Laughing out loud) Oh yeah she probably read it (running and hiding)

Yes shell your right, the dad will past the opaline gene to the girls and they will be opaline, while the males will carry the gene (split) just like they will carry the ino gene.

It is good to know that I am finally learning some of this stuff. Maybe by the time I breed my guys I'll actually have a clue!(Laughing out loud)

:(Laughing out loud):

 

Lovey I was please as punch to be corrected

 

seems we all posted together in that moment but at least the point got across.

Edited November 11, 200618 yr by Nerwen

I learned from the best

Thank you so much for your responses. So, to make sure that I have this straight:

 

Males should be clearflighted dominant pied split to lutino and split to opaline. Colors should be green unless possibly blue if mom is hiding a blue gene or lutino if dad is split to lutino. Daughters should be opaline like their father. Will daughters also be clearflighted dominant pieds (and opaline) like their father? Will only daughters be opaline (in other words, if it’s opaline I know it’s a female)? Now my question is if I get any males and eventually breed them to a normal green hen would I get lutino and opaline daughters?

 

Once again, thank you in advance for your assistance. I'll keep you updated as to what I eventually end up with. Usually I’m pretty good at figuring out genetics. The fact that Adenyyd is both dominant pied and opaline seems to be throwing me off! ~ PAdoula

I'm not sure that you can say for sure that they the babies would be female if they are opaline. There's no way of really knowing if their lutino mother is an opaline as well, but if she is since the father is an opaline that would mean that ALL of the babies would be opalines, males and females. So if some are opaline and some aren't then the ones that are opaline are females.

 

Males or females could be pied - it's not a sex linked gene

 

 

Now my question is if I get any males and eventually breed them to a normal green hen would I get lutino and opaline daughters?

 

It's possible that you could, not guaranteed. If the male is split for opaline then there's a 50-50 chance of the daughters being opaline and a 50-50 chance that the males will be split for it. Same with lutino. You might get lutinos or opalines or even a lutino that is opaline.

true Hurdy I didn't think about it that you wouldn't be able to tell if she was an opaline because of the coloration. Awesome point!