October 31, 200618 yr Author Let me put the points of this discussion bluntly. I was given 4 eggs from a breeder that assists me in beginning this "Hobbie" which I have been in for over a year. It takes years to even begin to get going in this hobbie. The eggs were from an outstanding pair of Recessive Pieds in which one won 1st prices on the bench. The result was two chicks. A healthy Recessive Pied Grey Hen and a Bird that would appear to be a feather duster. I will be taking the cock to an expert on Thursday, Australian time. As I don't know if the Hen is carrying the gene for this mutation, I will be breeding her in the future. If any chicks are feather dusters the breeding will stop. If any chicks are sold, the buyer will be informed of the current cocks condition. would a person really pay $1000 for a show quality budgie if they knew that it's sibling was a featherduster and they could possibly be contaminating their own lines with the featherdusters? Yes. I have been at an auction where a person has paid $11,000.00au ($15,000.00us) for 4 birds. 3 of the birds cost over $3,000.00au ($4,000.00us) each, Not knowing their back ground. Only the name of the breeder that sells them. Eterri you have bought this discussion into disrepute with your narrow minded views and your attacks against me. You have no experience in breeding or managing show birds. All your information comes form books and research and not from practical experience. If find you hipacritical that you can even think of advicing other on things that you have no hand on knowledge at all. I agree with Hath on this point. I know lots of people related to others who have relatives that have dieseases or disabilities, and I know that I would be cruel to tell them that they were'nt allowed kids. They don't have all those moral hang-ups involved with breeding that we do because they're animals! My budgies aren't sitting in a corner crying because they want to get married and have "kids." That's ridiculous. Your comments on Humans breeding is contridictive of your view on birds. You would obviously like to see a baby born with defects than a budgie. That is sad.
November 1, 200618 yr Author Hi Phoebe, Fluffy is doing fine. He is eating like a normal chick and is happily preening. I have him on a high protein feed for his special needs. I am designing some additions to the Nursary for him. He wont be going into the flight. He will have a special place with me. Edited November 1, 200618 yr by daz
November 1, 200618 yr Can we see some more photos of Fluffy please Daz ? PS Kens nickname is Fluffy ( for similar reasons )
November 1, 200618 yr More Photos.. Sure.. ..and as for Ken Ken....he's a shaggy boy...the word Bear comes to mind
November 1, 200618 yr Does anyone know if there can be really different cases in feather dusters? Because Fluffy looks alot better compared to lots of the pictures Iv'e seen of feather dusters. Because Fluffy can stand on a perch and the feathers don't seem to be restricting his movement or eating. That's from the first photos, are the feathers getting longer, thicker?
November 1, 200618 yr Be interesting to find out what the person that you are seeing says about this bird, he doesn't look to be the 'typical' featherduster but there is definately something wrong- there are heaps of different human disabilities affecting co-ordination and looks so its more than likely its not a featherduster but has a genetic (not necessarily hereditary) problem
November 1, 200618 yr There is a photo of another baby budgie that is feather duster on another site and looks just like Daz's. I think the confusion is due to the difference between how a very young feather duster looks compared to later when more feather growth has occurred. Try this http://z14.invisionfree.com/justbudgies/in...?showtopic=3165 Edited November 1, 200618 yr by Bubbles
November 1, 200618 yr I'm starting to think that there are very different cases of fether duters because Bubbles picture looked like baby Fluffy, but I found this picture as well. These chicks look alot worse and apear to be younger than Fluffy and the chick from the other forum.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v459/ali...emelsblauw3.jpg Edited November 1, 200618 yr by adelaidegirl
November 1, 200618 yr These chicks look alot worse and apear to be younger than Fluffy and the chick from the other forum.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v459/ali...emelsblauw3.jpg I think that those are crested budgies, not feather dusters. They might be called japanese crested.
November 1, 200618 yr These chicks look alot worse and apear to be younger than Fluffy and the chick from the other forum.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v459/ali...emelsblauw3.jpg I think that those are crested budgies, not feather dusters. They might be called japanese crested. I thought crested as well.
November 1, 200618 yr I was wondering about the crest on its head when I found this picture, thanks for pointing that out. I searched and found that those are full body crested budgies heres a picture of an adult. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v459/ali...emelsblauw1.jpg How strange does it look! I didn't know you could get them.
November 1, 200618 yr Author Hi All heres some photos I just took of Fluffy Doesn't sit long on the perch. But it gives a good indication of the wing feathers.
November 1, 200618 yr Hi Phoebe, Fluffy is doing fine. He is eating like a normal chick and is happily preening. I have him on a high protein feed for his special needs. I am designing some additions to the Nursary for him. He wont be going into the flight. He will have a special place with me. That's great news Daz! Glad Fluffy is doing fine and you have made special arrangements for him. :angel1:
November 1, 200618 yr Even though he may be a little different he still is very cute. The last picture is great quality I can never get pictures of my birds in flight or even moving.
November 1, 200618 yr Poor little mite. You should take him inside as a pet budgie so he can have tons of love during his probably short life - that's what i'd do.
November 1, 200618 yr I don't need a book to have the feelings and opinions that I do. Please tell me why on EARTH am I not allowed to know what I'm talking about just because I'm not a breeder? These are my feelings, I didn't read them on someone's page. And as far as your last statement, Daz, you are either completely misunderstanding me or just putting words in my mouth. I'm not even sure how you gathered what you said. My bird views and human views can't contradict themselves with each other. They're two different subjects! I give up on this thread because not once have you actually addressed the subject at hand. Not once have you explained why what you're doing is okay for the birds. The ONLY thing it's really bioled down to is "showing budgies is different" but you haven't said a single thing that makes sense as far as why it's okay to ignore genetic faults in show budgies. From what I've gathered, it all comes down to some budgie that might be born later on and is worth more than a feather duster that might be born right along beside it. I think it's time for this site to get back into promoting RESPONSIBLE breeding and stop being shy about what's right and wrong. With some things, there is definitely a grey line in between and right and wrong are very hard to determine but when it comes to something like this, it's quite clear. The concern should be for the birds and I'm not seeing that here. I hope this little bird does have a nice life with you and enjoys it's special place in your home but I also wish that you would reconsider breeding the other bird and possibly passing down the gene.
November 1, 200618 yr Author I give up on this thread because not once have you actually addressed the subject at hand. Not once have you explained why what you're doing is okay for the birds. The ONLY thing it's really bioled down to is "showing budgies is different" but you haven't said a single thing that makes sense as far as why it's okay to ignore genetic faults in show budgies. From what I've gathered, it all comes down to some budgie that might be born later on and is worth more than a feather duster that might be born right along beside it. You obviously have got a clue what you are talking about. This topic started as a discussion on A young chick with at the time could be a genetic disorder called a feather duster. You have now swung it around to Show birds and back on your favourite subject of Irresponcible breeding. There are may here that have had enough. I think it's time for this site to get back into promoting RESPONSIBLE breeding and stop being shy about what's right and wrong. With some things, there is definitely a grey line in between and right and wrong are very hard to determine but when it comes to something like this, it's quite clear. The concern should be for the birds and I'm not seeing that here. I hope this little bird does have a nice life with you and enjoys it's special place in your home but I also wish that you would reconsider breeding the other bird and possibly passing down the gene. Are you trying to tell the world that if you breed a normal cock to an opaline hen. Every single cock will be split to opaline. If you are you are less informed than I thought you where. You are saying that because this chick has a defective gene it's whole family has it. That is what you are saying. Terri you have absolutely no idea in what you are talking about so please do everyone a favour and keep out of the discussion.
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