I just bought a new male budgie about a week ago. He is still quite young. He is a pale blue with a yellow face and has grey colored wings but they are not the typical black markings. He is a very pretty bird. His face is a very pale yellow actually. Any specific name for his color pattern?

 

Thanks,

Eric

A picture would be best. If his wings are light grey he could be a greywing and the yellowface denotes either a Yellowface Type 1 which is restricted to the face or a Type 2 in which the yellow bleeds into the body area.

A picture would be best. If his wings are light grey he could be a greywing and the yellowface denotes either a Yellowface Type 1 which is restricted to the face or a Type 2 in which the yellow bleeds into the body area.

The yellow is only on his face and yes his wings are light grey. Sounds like your first description is correct.

 

Thanks so much,

Eric

I had a stunning Green Clearwing cock bird, he won me a couple of placings at a couple of local shows.

grey colored wings but they are not the typical black markings

 

What do you mean by this? are the wing patterns patchy? Did you just mean instead of black they are grey? or Do the look different from a normal?

 

With the yellowface gene when they are young both a type one and type two will only have yellow on their face, the yellow bleed through happens with each moult.

If your budgie has a pale yellow (or creamy colour) it is a type one yellow face, this means that if you were to breed it to a white face budgie - you would get a majority of white face babies, where a bright yellow face would indicate a type 2 yellow face and it is dominant and your young would all have that gene... all yellow faces...

 

Thought this may be of interest.

 

Have you worked out how to put up a picture yet?

I am not following you I swear Andrea :glare:

 

I read and was told both Type 1 and Type 2 were dominant. Also remember that a double factor yellow would be visually a white face too. So at times we don't know if it is a pure white face or a double factor yellow. Make sense?

 

Here is an interesting article if you want to get more into depth about the yellowface gene http://www.birdhobbyist.com/parrotcolour/peter/yface01.html

If your budgie has a pale yellow (or creamy colour) it is a type one yellow face, this means that if you were to breed it to a white face budgie - you would get a majority of white face babies, where a bright yellow face would indicate a type 2 yellow face and it is dominant and your young would all have that gene... all yellow faces...

 

Thought this may be of interest.

 

Have you worked out how to put up a picture yet?

 

Wow, to be honest, that doesn't sound right at all. I am with Lovey, I don't follow what you're saying.

 

Having a creamy face doesn't make a bird yellowface type 1, and having darker yellow golden face doesn't make a bird yellowface type two either. what makes YF type 1 or type 2 is the factor where whether the yellow bleeds into the body colour or not. However having a darker yellowy golden coloured face can mean that the bird is a golden face, that could still be type 1 or type 2.

 

And yes Lovey, my understanding is that both yellowface 1 and 2 are dominants. only the order of dominance goes like this... yellowface type 2, yellowface type 1, then white face blue. Having any yellowface birds breed to a white face blue (not the double factor yellowface) will produce yellowfaces and white faces babies. the only guarantee of having ALL yellowfaces babies are if you one of your bird is a double factor yellowface to a 'normal' white face blue birds.. so two white birds to produce all yellowface babies.

WOW!! Am I wrong, sorry about that, I am reading a book and that was my u nderstanding of what they said, so here I am thinking - Yay!! I am finally understanding how all this goes together, and then you popped up that link which states:"The most curious of the Yellowface varieties is the Mutant 1 Yellowface in which the double factor bird looks exactly like an ordinary Blue. "

 

And I am lost again...

I thought I had got it right but obviously I am way off the mark.

 

By the way the book I am reading is "The Complete Book of Budgerigars", instead of starting at the beginning I went straight to the genetics and looked under yellow face... now that I reread it, I see I took it out of context... I am so far behind still...

 

Thanks for setting me right, and I apologise for placing the wrong information up, I hope I haven't confused any one else.

 

Thanks again Andrea

No problem Andrea trust me I was lost when I first got started , and sometimes I still feel lost. I can tell you Cheeta and I have learned alot on this forum from members such as Rainbow, Nerwen, Hurdybird and many others who are very up on their genetics . So no worries - everything is COOL