Okay, some of you may remember back in May my hen Patches laid a clutch of eggs and one of the babies was a lutino. She has since lain another clutch and we have four new babies, a df pied, a normal, a lutino and one that has me stumped. When this baby hatched it had red eyes, and I immediately thought lutino, now at four weeks of age it has feint brownish-grey markings on its wings, and a few marks on its head/face. Whatever its mutation this baby is absolutely gorgeous, I havent really seen one similar in colour but I havent seen many different mutations either! I can post pics but I imagine the colour will be better in a few days when its feathers have grown in a bit more.

 

 

Ideas anyone????

Edited October 6, 200618 yr by Patches

are the eyes still red? if so it sounds like a lacewing which is a Lutino (or albino) with the cinnamon gene as well.

Thanks Nerwen! yeah, it still has the red eyes, the brown gray colour is so feint atm that if I put him/her in the sun the colour all but disappears/blends into the buttercup yellow.

So can I assume by the number of veiws of this topic, and the number of replies that Nerwen is correct and I have a lacewing baby?

Edited October 7, 200618 yr by Patches

With out seeing a photo and on what your have posted, yes Nerwen is right. But.... you have said it carried the ino gene and the cinnamon gene but does it carry the blue gene.

 

No blue gene it is a Yellow lacewing.

If it carries the blue gene it could be a white lace wing.. What other colours beside red eyes and brown markings does it have?

yeah it was the fact that other Ino babies had being produced that I said with lacewing.

 

Was it the same partner that gave this baby?

Yes, same parents as the last clutch. Dad is a skye blue (some have said seafoam) spangle and mum is pied. They are to the left in this photo.

 

This is the baby in question at 3 weeks, the brow/grey colour was barely noticable(in fact I thought it was just nestbox grime ) although on closer examination of this photo it is just noticable... it is still very very feint but baby is gorgeous!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/barb...sh/106_9919.jpg

Edited October 8, 200618 yr by daz

ahh Dad is a yellowface type 2

 

Thank you thank you thank you for the pictures they really help.

 

The marks look to be following the spangle pattern.

Gess he reminds me of someone.. I wonder who that can be.

This is mine possibly a Opaline Spangle Grey Green.

Edited October 8, 200618 yr by daz

I will post a better picture asap, because with babies almost full feathering the marks are even feinter!!! Baby has a name so I best start calling it that- Raini!!!!!! (All in this clutch are named after the weather on the day they hatched Raini, Cloudy, Sunni and Windy)

The marks look to be following the spangle pattern.

Is that unusual? what do lacewing markings usually resemble???

Daz that baby is beautiful, but I am confused as to how it resembles Raini (Laughing out loud) - Raini being buttercup yellow with very slight wing markings!

I will post a better picture asap, because with babies almost full feathering the marks are even feinter!!! Baby has a name so I best start calling it that- Raini!!!!!! (All in this clutch are named after the weather on the day they hatched Raini, Cloudy, Sunni and Windy)

The marks look to be following the spangle pattern.

Is that unusual? what do lacewing markings usually resemble???

Daz that baby is beautiful, but I am confused as to how it resembles Raini lol - Raini being buttercup yellow with very slight wing markings!

 

I have had another look the markings are fainter. I'll be interested when it feathers up. I took a look at the parents. This ones parents are opaline light green and a spangle grey green.

It's just I can never remember if the spangle gene sould show on an Ino with the cinnamon gene. It's not unual to get a spangle offspring from a spangle parent since it's a dominant gene.

It's just I can never remember if the spangle gene sould show on an Ino with the cinnamon gene. It's not unual to get a spangle offspring from a spangle parent since it's a dominant gene.

 

With Spangle I here the opersite is in reality the normal. I have read stories of offspring being of low numbers.

 

Hope mine aren't like that.

Is this anything like what we are talking about here ?

Mine is apparently a light green spangle fallow. Started out looking like a lacewing but developed some green just prior to leaving the nest. Has yet to go through its first moult.

Here is a light green spangle fallow from the fallow website http://www.geocities.com/fallowbudgies/fall613.jpg

It should have dark eyes that will turn plum in adult if it is a fallow.

Well it is similar to that one, with its general body colour and cheek patches but the wing markings are a lot lighter...a lot! I have the day at home tomorrow so I will go out and try to take a decent photo now it is a bit older.

 

This photo from the bonsai fallow site is very similar to Raini.... but I still will post pics tomorrow.

http://www.geocities.com/fallowbudgies/fall801.jpg

Edited October 10, 200618 yr by daz

Well it is similar to that one, with its general body colour and cheek patches but the wing markings are a lot lighter...a lot! I have the day at home tomorrow so I will go out and try to take a decent photo now it is a bit older.

 

This photo from the bonsai fallow site is very similar to Raini.... but I still will post pics tomorrow.

http://www.geocities.com/fallowbudgies/fall801.jpg

 

My baby budgie's marking were a lot lighter too, before leaving the nest. Like this

and after fledging

Edited October 10, 200618 yr by Bubbles

These are pics taken just now, I was a little surprised to see Raini outside the nest box! Isnt it amaxing how they change in just a few days!!! http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/barb...sh/106_9932.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/barb...sh/106_9934.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/barb...sh/106_9939.jpg

 

 

Thanks everyone for helping but I'm still not clear on it- is Raini a Fallow or a Lacewing?

 

His/her eyes are exactly the same colour or its lutino clutch mate at the moment, will that be what I have to keep an eye on to distinguish the mutation?

Edited October 10, 200618 yr by daz

OMG so cute!