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well since my female doesnt want my male my friend is gonna trade me it for a albino female

what are the chances of that one wanting him???????

You'll have to wait and see but remember to quarentine the female for 30 days. :blink:

How long have you had them together? Rainbow and Skittles were together over a year before she showed any interest in breeding. And it was not for Rainbow's lack of trying, LOL. You also need to look at their surroundings from a bird's perspective. In my case, a larger cage and a new location was all it took, and they didn't feel the need for a nest box after that! I could not prevent the matings, bar seperating the birds. (Which I tried by the way, and finally gave up after 3 days as I could not take the constant screaming.) Some things to think about:

 

1. How old are they?

2. How long have they been together?

3. What are the cage dimensions?

4. What about the location? (ie, near a window vs. being in a corner location with walls on two sides of the cage?)

5. What is their diet and activity level like?

6. What is the temperature?

7. How many daylight hours are they getting?

8. How much sleep do they get?

9. Where is the nest box located? Is there a nest box?

10. Are there other animals in the house that may make the budgies nervous?

11. Are they constantly surrounded by activity, or do they have a lot of "alone" time?

 

These are some things to consider for now, before you think about trading your female for another. It's quite possible there is nothing wrong with her, she just is not comfortable with the current setup. And it IS the female budgie that will determine whether any matings take place at all. If she is not satisfied, and is not encouraging the male's attentions, I would start with the answers to the questions I've listed above, as it is quite possible a new female may feel the same way if the problem in environmental.

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they have been together for eight month and the age of the female is N/A but she looks like at least 2-3 yrs old and the male is 13 months old and has been showing off to her for 5 months now

What do you mean by the age of the female is N/A? You can't really tell a budgie's age just by looking at it after the first molt or two has passed. The male is a little young emotionally, but he could still breed without a doubt. He may not have quite figured out yet what it takes to bring a hen into condition.

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on her foot it says 2005 and the males bobes his head and sometimes puts his foot on her

What are your reasons for wanting to breed them?

 

Might just be me, but I think it's a little unfair to trade her off just because she doesn't breed (yet). :P Owning a pet is a life-long committment and shouldn't be broken unless it's in the best interest of the bird or just plain unavoidable. She's lived eight months with you, is used to her life there, and has likely formed a bond with her friend (even if they haven't actually reproduced). I've seen several birds have to make a change from one home to another and it is often difficult for them in many ways. They have feelings and can get nervous, scared, anxious, and will even mourn the loss of a flock member.

 

I'm not saying this to ridicule you in anyway, I just wanted to put this other perspective out there. I understand that it's disappointing to want your birds to breed and then not see any results but at the same time, please remember that she's a member of the family, a living thing, and has feelings that will be affected by such a change.

 

Another thing I am curious about is why you have to trade her even if you want another female to breed with? Why not purchase a good hen from a breeder and keep this hen as a pet? If there are money, space, or even parental issues, I think it would be best to reconsider breeding completely until it's a better time.

 

That is probably not what you wanted to hear but it is definitely important to at least think about.

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the thought of trading her is out of the picture we ccould never let her go

and i wanna breed them jsut to have some babies and have them trained

there is also another situtation she hits my male a lot

You might find that she "hits" the male a lot as you say, due to her not being ready or willing to accept his approach to breeding / mating. Some males are just too "full on" and pushy and the females don't respond. Not all pairs get along together. The female will also not be interested if her health is lacking in any way so be sure she is in top condition and healthy. Does she need worming too ? Make sure she is well nourished, healthy and happy and see what comes in the future. Maybe if you can separate them for awhile and reintroduce later, they may be more keen. Good luck....cheers karen :P

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i have tried sepertating them from 3 months and she is in great condition i give her fruits and vegtibles and i also give them some water suppliments in their water

Didn't you recently get rid of at least eight budgies because of lack of space? :P

 

I will shush after this comment because I know where it goes but... I wish (for the sake of yourself and the budgies) that you would put off breeding for now and just enjoy your pets for what they are. Breeding the right way takes a lot of time, space, and money, not to mention a genuine understanding of the process as well as the ethics behind it.

 

I am honestly NOT trying to be mean to you or anything like that. I've just seen too many sad stories to not say anything at all.

You might find that she "hits" the male a lot as you say, due to her not being ready or willing to accept his approach to breeding / mating. Some males are just too "full on" and pushy and the females don't respond. Not all pairs get along together. ...........

 

....don't I know this. Bluebell would have nothing to do with Apollo to the point that she bloodied his head in one attack. So I had to quickly separate them. Now I have oaired her up to Jet and she can't get enough of him. She actually chases him to kiss and cuddle. Who'd guess :D But the first time they were togeather earlier this year she didn't want him either. :P

 

Give them time.

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yes i did get rid of 8 budgies because of lack space but these two have everything a breeding budgie pair needs they are in gresat health they have good big cage they get their fruits daily they sing they groom but dont mate

and i have noticed that since i had my female her cere hasnt changed color its always been crusty brown

The cere doesn't have to change to any other color than brown. I have hens that have had crusty brown ceres for years without ever going out of condition. That would not be my worry. As was pointed out, if space was initially an issue, just because your budgies are of breeding age and in good health doesn't constitute a reason to breed them. You will be adding more budgies to a space that already has been shown to not be big enough. Until that changes, I would enjoy their singing and watching them groom and otherwise interact. If you want tame birds, why not work on taming the ones you have even more? In the process, you may find you lose the desire to breed them, or on the other hand you may find your circumstances change so that you can devote more room to your birds, and it may make sense to breed at that point. I don't understand wanting to bring more birds into a space that will not tolerate them. okay, I understand wanting to, but realistically it is not practical is it? Are you seriously considering breeding them, knowing you will have cramped conditions at the outset?

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