I went to visit a bird place yesterday which has pretty healthy birds where I have bought from before. They had got some new birds in from a breeder and 4 of them just happened top come home with me.

The first one seems to be a lacewing white but it/she/he has dark eyes with iris rings ? I'm still trying to figure that one out. I think female. No set name but I like the name CHINA.

The next one is a cinnamon too and she seems to be dominant pied and opaline. I have called her MADAM.

and these two which are red eyed yellow lacewings ...not sure of the sex

i love the first one if i can find anything around here like that one it will be comi ng home with me

All of them are absolutely beautiful! I am of course partial to the yellows and blues (and those that are YF or BF or whatever (Laughing out loud)) because mine are! I love the cinnamon/albino and the yellows!!! They are just gorgeous!

OOOOOOHHHHH That first one really trips my trigger! I would call her Grace because she looks like perfect grace and purity.

Shell

OOOOOOHHHHH That first one really trips my trigger!

Shell

 

 

All of them are absolutely beautiful! I am of course partial to the yellows and blues (and those that are YF or BF or whatever LOL) because mine are! I love the cinnamon/albino and the yellows!!! They are just gorgeous!

Me too with the yellows and blues. I love albinos and lutinos too

I like them both, They are lovely.

Cindy

okay, I am sorry you put them in a different post :(Laughing out loud):

 

China (which I like) looks like a female

 

I agree with what you said for the 2nd female so english isn't she and majestic is what I think of...names

Diana (for Princess Diana) or Di

Freckles for all her flecks on her head

 

The other 2 the last picture facing us definetely boy and if the other cere is like that I agree too, where they are together they look like they have slight nasal rings so the one without the patterning could be female unless you have a better picture.

 

Names Sunny, Sonny, Sunshine, Lemon, Lemondrop (because of the yellow coloring) OR Pickle, Murphy, Buddy, Chanel, Garfield, Odie, T.J., J.J., Fred and Ethel

 

Lovely birds Karen!

I'd be showing them off too! They are stunning looking birds.

okay, I am sorry you put them in a different post

 

China (which I like) looks like a female

 

I agree with what you said for the 2nd female so english isn't she and majestic is what I think of...names

Diana (for Princess Diana) or Di

Freckles for all her flecks on her head

 

The other 2 the last picture facing us definetely boy and if the other cere is like that I agree too, where they are together they look like they have slight nasal rings so the one without the patterning could be female unless you have a better picture.

 

Names Sunny, Sonny, Sunshine, Lemon, Lemondrop (because of the yellow coloring) OR Pickle, Murphy, Buddy, Chanel, Garfield, Odie, T.J., J.J., Fred and Ethel

 

Lovely birds Karen!

 

I agree thinking the one with less wing patterns is a female maybe and the other a male maybe. I will call the big pied girl Madam as she looks so stern. I have a Di and I think Nerwen has a freckles ?

Two yellow ones.......Chanel is nice. Other names I have or similar. I was thinking Yolkie and Eggbert but I may leave that one open for awhile. Might have to go back and get a male lacewing yet.

Really nice looking birds. The first one is a real looker for sure. Could it be a dilute texas clearbody?

they are all so stunning , they are beautiful .

Edited September 29, 200618 yr by birdluv

Interesting Shawna when Karen fist asked me A texas Clearbody cinnamon is what I first thought. And Karen after reading my book for clues last night it's what I keep coming back to.

 

We may have to wait to see her kids to be sure. Love the name China and Madam

 

Don't foget the lacewings look spangle as well, and I'm trying to figure out of spangle with the cinnamon gene can show on Ino's (what lacewings are) or if you have some Fallows here.

Hi Karen,

 

As always you are the luckiest budgie owner… you always manage to find beautiful birds.

 

:offtopic: I’ve been meaning to ask you, why did you change your nickname? I knew you as Budgiebird and then I “lost some episodes” and bam… Bubbles appeared! Shouldn’t your aviary be called “Bubbles Hilton” now?

 

Love the lacewings… what I wouldn’t give to get my hands on one!!

 

Also like the first budgie very much, but he is really puzzling me… I’ve been trying to understand what he is. Hope someone comes by and pin points it for us.

 

At first I thought he was a cinnamon grey, but he doesn’t have a well defined blue or brown cere, nor has he a deep cinnamon primary tail feathers.

 

I also researched the texas clearbody (also known as sex-linked clearbody), and found the same problem, he/she should have a blue or brown cere, and being a cinnamon should also have cinnamon primary tail feathers.

 

Fallow would explain the fleshy pink cere in a male, but he can’t be a grey fallow as you say he hasn’t got red eyes but dark ones.

 

Could it be that this budgie was recently out of shape and that’s the reason why the cere is faint?

 

I’m lost!!!!

They are very pretty birds. I really like the white and blue one!

Edited September 29, 200618 yr by F.G.G.L.O.

Also like the first budgie very much, but he is really puzzling me… I’ve been trying to understand what he is. Hope someone comes by and pin points it for us. :offtopic:

 

At first I thought he was a cinnamon grey, but he doesn’t have a well defined blue or brown cere, nor has he a deep cinnamon primary tail feathers.

 

I also researched the texas clearbody (also known as sex-linked clearbody), and found the same problem, he/she should have a blue or brown cere, and being a cinnamon should also have cinnamon primary tail feathers.

 

Fallow would explain the fleshy pink cere in a male, but he can’t be a grey fallow as you say he hasn’t got red eyes but dark ones.

 

Could it be that this budgie was recently out of shape and that’s the reason why the cere is faint?

 

I’m lost!!!!

(Laughing out loud), I think we all are, Karen has another bird Curry that I can only work out as Clearbody even with the pink cere. He produced an ino baby so I believe a full Ino gene matched with a par-ino (the Clearbody gene) could give a male the pink cere rather than the blue cere.

 

Karen do you know the age of this one??

Maybe you should have called this one Puzzle :(Laughing out loud):

Also like the first budgie very much, but he is really puzzling me… I’ve been trying to understand what he is. Hope someone comes by and pin points it for us. :offtopic:

 

At first I thought he was a cinnamon grey, but he doesn’t have a well defined blue or brown cere, nor has he a deep cinnamon primary tail feathers.

 

I also researched the texas clearbody (also known as sex-linked clearbody), and found the same problem, he/she should have a blue or brown cere, and being a cinnamon should also have cinnamon primary tail feathers.

 

Fallow would explain the fleshy pink cere in a male, but he can’t be a grey fallow as you say he hasn’t got red eyes but dark ones.

 

Could it be that this budgie was recently out of shape and that’s the reason why the cere is faint?

 

I’m lost!!!!

lol, I think we all are, Karen has another bird Curry that I can only work out as Clearbody even with the pink cere. He produced an ino baby so I believe a full Ino gene matched with a par-ino (the Clearbody gene) could give a male the pink cere rather than the blue cere.

 

Karen do you know the age of this one??

Maybe you should have called this one Puzzle

This one China, is approx 18 months to 2 years from what I have been told. I will check her legring again. There are siblings. I may go back and have a look at the others. They did arrive at the bird place with some that look like fallows. The only danger of going back for a second look is I may come home with some more.

Edited September 30, 200618 yr by Bubbles

Hi Karen,

 

As always you are the luckiest budgie owner… you always manage to find beautiful birds.

 

:offtopic: I’ve been meaning to ask you, why did you change your nickname? I knew you as Budgiebird and then I “lost some episodes” and bam… Bubbles appeared! Shouldn’t your aviary be called “Bubbles Hilton” now?

 

Love the lacewings… what I wouldn’t give to get my hands on one!!

 

Also like the first budgie very much, but he is really puzzling me… I’ve been trying to understand what he is. Hope someone comes by and pin points it for us.

 

At first I thought he was a cinnamon grey, but he doesn’t have a well defined blue or brown cere, nor has he a deep cinnamon primary tail feathers.

 

I also researched the texas clearbody (also known as sex-linked clearbody), and found the same problem, he/she should have a blue or brown cere, and being a cinnamon should also have cinnamon primary tail feathers.

 

Fallow would explain the fleshy pink cere in a male, but he can’t be a grey fallow as you say he hasn’t got red eyes but dark ones.

 

Could it be that this budgie was recently out of shape and that’s the reason why the cere is faint?

 

I’m lost!!!!

Hey Luso,

The name change was due to the fact that I wanted to rememebr a very special budgie that I bred and had died in an aviary flight accident....Bubbles. I will keep the Budgiebird Hilton as my aviaries at home are called that now.

Re the cinnamon abino....it does have the cinnamon primary tailfeathers too, but maybe they havent shown up in these photos. It seems to be female, out of breeding condition. The budgie is in very good health. I guess I could pair her ? up with someone to bring her into condition.....any suggestions as to what type ? I might have to go back and look for a male lacewing ?

okay trying to catch up (Laughing out loud) with the post...

 

More names :(Laughing out loud): it is hard when you have so many....and I don't know if you named any yet?

 

Boys w/meanings

Agilard - bright

Albert - noble and bright

Bert - bright

Bertie - bright and nobility

Nye - truly golden (like that one)

Robbie or Rob - famous, bright

Rupert - famous bright

Sahara - golden (I like that one too)

 

Girls with meanings

Aurelia - golden

Chrysilla - golden hair

Jin - golden in Korean

Kama - the golden one in indian

Solana - sun in spanish

Xanthe - yellow bright in Greek

 

so there you go for the yellow birds the others are names .

okay trying to catch up lol with the post...

 

More names it is hard when you have so many....and I don't know if you named any yet?

 

Boys w/meanings

Agilard - bright

Albert - noble and bright

Bert - bright

Bertie - bright and nobility

Nye - truly golden (like that one)

Robbie or Rob - famous, bright

Rupert - famous bright

Sahara - golden (I like that one too)

 

Girls with meanings

Aurelia - golden

Chrysilla - golden hair

Jin - golden in Korean

Kama - the golden one in indian

Solana - sun in spanish

Xanthe - yellow bright in Greek

 

so there you go for the yellow birds the others are names .

Very nice names, Lovey So I will choose from your list here as soon as I figure out boy? girl? I think I have one of each in the yellow birds......

I like Nye, Sahara, Jin, Solana, Aurelia....so help me work out boy or girl or both and I will pick from these names

I like those too...I have to find unique names for you girl but a little research is all worth the effort .

 

For a fact the one facing the camera is a boy it is so pink there is no doubt, the other one if it looks the same in person boy but it could be female the one without the wing patterns as much.

The consensus of opinion is that this bird

is a cinnamon texas clearbody

I have never heard of them. I just knew when I saw this bird that it wasn't as it seemed and I should get it.

Here is a cinnamon texas clearbody yellow

Anyone have any info or photos of a cinnamon texas clearbody in white I would like to see. Thanks....Karen

Hi Karen!

 

Thank you for your PM.

 

These are my conclusions about China. She may well be one of two things, although from your last information I’m more inclined for the second:

 

1) a cinnamon light grey. The cinnamon variety does fade the body colour and as you probably know is sex-linked, which means that when she’s paired to any dominant variety she will be passing the cinnamon to her male offspring, so they will be recessive for the cinnamon.

 

These offspring males will be able to throw the recessive variety (Cinnamon) in the next generation.

 

She could be paired to a cinnamon male, so you would have cinnamons in the first generation.

 

If her eyes were plum red (dark red) she would be a cinnamon.

 

2) a texas clearbody. More specifically a cinnamon clearbody as you stated, because the texas clearbody may be combined whit other varieties.

 

If this is her right variety, if she in fact has black eyes, you could pair her to an ino (lutino or albino) male, because when paired to an ino the texas clearbody will act as dominant, which means that all the resulting males will be clearbodies split for ino, and all resulting hens will be ino.

 

 

Hey, I may be mistaken about all of this… :wine where are Daz, Rainbow or Nerwen when we need them????!! Came on experts, give us your opinions… please!

 

If she where mine I would go for the second hypothesis and try for some more clearbodies!

 

Best regards,

 

Luso

Thanks Luso, for your great answer to this topic. I would try for an ino male for her too then based on China being a cinnamon texas clearbody if thats what she is. Her eyes are definitely black, not plum. They had more like her, but when I returned for a second look they were gone. There were fallows too and they also were gone. A breeder clearing out some birds to the bird shop. I will check her legring and try and contact the breeder if I can. Interesting bird.....China :wine

Here is an article I came up with looking for a picture on the net too

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/c.../clearbody.html

Greatly confused by what China is now. Still in the dark. Cheeta has visited and she thinks possibly plum coloured eyes. I still think black eyes. Cheeta also thinks maybe a male budgie which I don't mind either way.

What do you guys think ?

 

EYES

 

Front shot...boy or girl ??

 

HELP