I have know idea about the types of all my budgies so I'm going to put one up now and then.

This is Walford, he is the son of Moss (died) and Berry. Berry is the same colour and type (i think) as Nerwen's Berry, but Moss died before I could get a picture

Anyway I would love some help.

Walford is a yellowface type 2 blue spangle. Spangle is where the wing patterns are reversed and the black edges the wings like a thin pencil line instead of the black being the main colour in the wings. Type 2 blue is where the yellow from the face bleeds into the blue of the body creating a greenish tinge. I think I have this right. Hope this helps. Pretty budgie

Edited September 9, 200618 yr by Bubbles

I'm going to add that he's an opaline as well on top of Bubbles said.

 

Pretty Walford.

I don't see the opaline in the head marking Cheeta?

I agree with the rest .

 

Here is a nice site to sit down with and decifer the different mutations you have (would like to see more of your birds) http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_colors.html

Here is Walford's brother Seymour .

He's a spangle of some sort right?

 

 

His wings are white, with light grey bits.

Please take a picture of his back so we can see the wing patterns, his throat spots are pretty light are they always like that? Very pretty boy he is.

 

adding one...he could be a grey wing not a spangle have too see the patterning.

Their sister Manny

she is pretty when you get the pics take them of the front and back because the wing patterns are important when determining mutations.

This is Seymour's daughter (names please, she hasn't got one yet)

Seymours wings are the same.

And yes Seymour and his daughter's throat spots are and have always been like that.

She is a sky blue greywing and a pretty one at that. The greywing dilutes the color of the bird and this is why she is diluted and her throat spots are gray.

 

Names: (not sure what you look for here are some though)

 

Siren (like a mermaid for her pretty blue color of the sea)

Ocean

Twinkle

Maisie

Meygen

Sasha

Blossom

Bella

Windy

 

Hope that helps a bit..

I like Meygen and Bella

So is Seymour a sky blue greywing aswell.

 

This is Toes (she's missing a few and is also missing her nails). She has red eyes and cinnimon markings. Again Type?

 

Seymour looks like exactly like his daughter yes.

 

She is a doll I am going to say and I am still learning this mutation more is a Lacewing. Do you know her background the mutations of her parents? Lacewings are a combination of a cinnamon (brown wings bugie) and either a albino/lutino breed together.

 

Description: Lacewing is a composite variety of lutino/albino and cinnamon. The budgie is mostly yellow (in yellow-based budgies) or mostly white (in white-based budgies). A suffusion of the body color is slightly visible in the body feathers. The markings of the head, wings, and tail show up as a light cinnamon color and the cheek patches are pale violet. The eyes are red/pink, and the cere of the male lacewing does not change normally. Adult male lacewings have purple ceres. Adult female lacewings have the normal white/tan/brown ceres. http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_colors.html#lacewing

I don't know her background at all.

It's sad because she can't perch properly now without her toes/nails. All the avairy budgies attacked her when I put her in she was a bleeding mess, but she is looking really good now, she's in breeding condition so I thought I might breed her with Seymour, what colours and types would I get?

I am still learning the different mutations and what they can get so I know someone with more experience will jump in here too.

 

Since your hen is carrying the cinnamon and albino gene (if I am correct on the lacewing).

 

Greywing is a recessive gene so unless your hen is carrying this gene it will not be expressed either.

 

I am going to go with that all the babies would be blue normals. Your males will be split for cinnamon and the ino gene (albino) but won't express it visually in the babies it will be a hidden gene. Also I believe 1/2 would be split for the greywing but again won't express it visually.

 

Lets see what someone else says (because I am learning and decided today (Laughing out loud) to take the challange )

Edited September 9, 200618 yr by lovey

Thanks for your help!

Lovey, I said opaline for Walford because of the body colour marking the wing feathers. Unless I miss something while I'm away, I'd say that he's an Opaline.

 

Seymour and daughter are gorgeous!! Looks like I agree with Lovey there.. greywings skyblue.

 

I'm going to take a jab at Manny being a greywing as well from that green color on her body. I could be wrong though.

 

Toes look very great! I do love those lacewings.

 

If you breed Toes with Seymour, I agree with Lovey, plus, I think you'll possibly get some cinnamon girls and albino girls???? I THINK that is.. hehe... (I go away for a month, and all my genetics go out the window!! (Laughing out loud))

Cheeta I see what you mean but the head doesn't match the opaline head of the reversed black lines..hmmm

 

I think when you work out the genetics when I looked it up , that the hen can give the sex linked to the males only and then if the male had the gene and he was split he would give it to his girls. I think?

you're right about the sex linked genes Lovey... hehe.. I got them confused.. thanks for clearing that up.

 

Opaline is really odd when mixed with spangle mutations.. I could very well by wrong. hehehe.

your probably right I mean I see exactly what you are saying and his tail like an opaline is light and colored areas running down the tail feather.

 

actually he looks like Karen's newest babies, I think I will go back and check out what was said there about her parent and babies.

 

okay, check out page 20 of the log that Bubbles started.

You will see the babies they look so similar and Melon the mom (she does look different though) who is defintely is an opaline spangle and the babies too I think. Just doing comparisons.

 

In the end what a gorgeous budgie..you don't find them here in the states like that at least not what I have seen.

Walford looks opaline to me as well. But I also see what you mean with the head bars Lovely...I think I would still vote opaline.

 

Seymour, Manny and Seymours daughter ( i like Meygen from the two you picked ) are greywings as lovely stated

 

To get all these colours in a clutch Moss must have been a green spangle split for yellowface blue and greywing and your Berry needs to be split for greywing as well.

 

And Toes looks lacwing to me as well and lovely is again right with what the babys should be.

your probably right I mean I see exactly what you are saying and his tail like an opaline is light and colored areas running down the tail feather.

 

actually he looks like Karen's newest babies, I think I will go back and check out what was said there about her parent and babies.

 

okay, check out page 20 of the log that Bubbles started.

You will see the babies they look so similar and Melon the mom (she does look different though) who is defintely is an opaline spangle and the babies too I think. Just doing comparisons.

 

Sorry Lovey....Melon was not the mother of those babies

Edited September 10, 200618 yr by Nerwen

Another few of Berry and Moss's

Mirror

These two are opline from the look of their wings, yes?

Pirate

 

Back view

love the names, yes they are both opaline cobalts.

Heres a picture of Manny's wings

Opps sorry about that Karen - I get confused

Nerwen did you think violet instead of cobalt I see a tinge up at the neck especcially the 2nd bird.

 

 

 

Oh and side note I went back and read what you put Nerwen (Laughing out loud) I am correct with the outcome I am excited .