This is my new budgie...which mutation is he? YF type 2...and??? I really dont understand!! The pothos arent the best...the yellow is stronger....

 

Oh my english.....

 

Thanks!!!

Riky

 

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Edited August 10, 200618 yr by Nerwen

It looks Green/Yellow Double Factor Dominant Pied information on the pied they show a blue and white one http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_co...ml#dominantpied

 

Type 1 and Type 2 is for a blue based bird where they either have a yellow face only (type 1) or if the yellow from the face bleeds into the body area (type 2) http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_co...html#yellowface here is information on this.

 

Pretty bird we will see what the others say

could be DF Dominant, but having no markings what so ever around the head and eyes makes me thing otherwise.

 

I thought DF Spangle they can get a small patch of colour where this one has green, but the eye doesn't show an iris ring, and he should have one now if his cere has turned blue. Does he have one and we can't see it?

Edited August 24, 200618 yr by Nerwen

is that true about the iris ring and the blue cere coming in at the same time? Since the iris ring can come in around 8 months, the blue cere around 4 months (found that to be true with Merlin).

no it can come at different times (3 months or so) mine got the ring before the cere's changed, but the depth of colour on this one is a match for a grown budgie, (1 year) which means the rings should have shown up by now.

so what do you think his mutation his? He is so handsome

 

opps I scrolled up so I saw you thought DF Spangle hmmm...

Well, when I saw this beauty I thought he could be a DEC (Dark Eyed Clear), because of the black eyes, the white cheek patches, the clear flights, the absence of markings on wings and head, but the green patches where wrong for it…..

 

Yet, I decided to research and got to an article from Mr. Al-Nasser. Guess what… I do think he is a DEC, but just not a good exemplar, because he is showing the green patches that should be hidden.

 

DEC Article

 

So, Lovey and Nerwen, what do you think? Am I way off track?

actually I was thinking the same thing but when reading this blows that theory out of the water - DEC male cere says purple pink see article http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_colors.html#darkeyed and that would be because of the recessive gene showing through. So that takes it back to being a dominant pied with a very light iris ring or one that has not deepen yet?

Well, I'm not 100% convinced about Dominant Pied.....

 

In that variety (Dominant Pied) the cheek patches aren't white. They should be Violet or Grey depending on the shade of green.

 

But my effort to get this birds variety goes on! I searched again and got to the WBO site, and after reading the Colour Standards page, I got to the Light Yellow and Dark Yellow varieties.

 

Lovey, do you think this could be one of those? Maybe the Dark Yellow with a green suffusion showing, no?

 

WBO

Edited August 11, 200618 yr by LusoPeriquito

I thought DEC too but as Lovely said the cere should be pink not blue. I think this little one will be a hard one to picture (Laughing out loud).

 

As to the colour which I forgot to talk about before I think he might be a goldenface rather than a green.

 

So I think we need to check if he has iris rings or not before guessing more.

 

Plus is he still in that cage? It looks like rust is all over it to me, which isn't good for them.

Thanks for the help...I post some better photos of my budgie and I hope you identify the mutation!!!

Thanks

Riky

 

 

 

 

The cere Nerwen still looks like it is in the progress of changing because the nostrils look like Merlin's where they are still lighter. Still haven't gotten an answer about the age of the bird but it could still be possible that the iris rings still need to come in? What do you think?

 

Why do you think goldenface?

 

side note what is with the cage Nerwen is right the one picture looks very rusty...

Well, I'm not 100% convinced about Dominant Pied.....

 

In that variety (Dominant Pied) the cheek patches aren't white. They should be Violet or Grey depending on the shade of green.

 

Luso, I had some dominant pieds I bred that had a white cheek patch on one side, the other side had a white and coablt patch... others were mixed white and cobalt/violet to varying degrees. I don't know the history of either parent bird, just know they were both dominant pieds. The white is possible with them, I think it is just part of one of the mutations they were carrying.

Edited August 11, 200618 yr by Rainbow

Good point Rainbow and in the dominant pied description in this link there is a picture with a dominant pied with partial white check patches http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_co...ml#dominantpied

 

If you knew the parents that would really be a key

If oyu look closly in the second picture you can see a small iris ring starting to show up. I think this one is a DF spangle.

 

Why do I think goldenface- the patcy look to the yellow and it's not as golden colour like the yellow on a green base bird (look at the colour of yellow on Pauls Fallow.)

I see it so do you think this is blue base not a green or can golden face be in greens - I know that may sound like a stupid question but I don't know the answer (Laughing out loud)

golden faces look like a green but are blue based. with each moult more and more yellow is added to the feathers.

that is what I figured it would be a blue base, you have a good eye for this because I would think this budgie is a green base.

thanks a lot...and so DF spangle blue, golden face?

Now I search a female to get different and strange variets babies...ideas?

thanks a lot...RIKI

Try a blue dominant pied, that will give a nice mix of babies. Normal spangles, normal blues, normal YFaces, YF spangles, Pied blues, Pied spangles, Pied YFaces, Pied YF spangles.

okay thanks, my male is in the blu series? if i get a spangle female I will get all spangles and DF spangles?

yes

Hi, a friend give me this female for my male....which mutation is she? what can I expect beetwen her and the male in first page?

 

thanks

ciao