okay so there is more than just one problem here.

 

Firstly Talullah is my hand tame budgie, she isnt incredibly tame ie wont come to yoruhand in her cage, but once she is out she will stand on your fingers and head etc and will step up from the floor. She has been doing really well and has always nibbled but now she is starting to bite really hard.

 

She is 6 months old and we've had her about 6 weeks.

 

Now the trouble is that her and my untame budgie Pepsi seem to have fallen in love and i'm wondering if this is the trouble. They are in seperate cages and i put him on top of a shelf so she cant get to him unless i bring him down for them to chat thru the bars but she is always trying to get to him and when she is out and hes on the floor they sit and flirt and regurgitate for one another and are just totally lovey dovey.

 

Is this causing the problem tho? I dont want to have to fully seperate the two as theya re so gorgeous and that woudl mean pepsi being in a cold empty dining room instead of warm in here with us.

 

Peps is 4 By The Way. dunno if that is relevant.

 

But do you think this has something to do with the biting? we have been ignoring her biting mainly so she doesnt think its something to get at us and if she bites our opposite hand we push her beak away with our finger which puts her off for a minute or two.

 

i'm just wondering whats going on. I spent $85 on her and her cage and so really dont want to see her go backwards but at the same time i think the two of them in love is jsut so gorgeous.

 

What are your thoughts ppl... Later on when she is old enough i wouldnt mind mating them ( altho hes never produced babies with his previous murderous ladyfriend) but if shes going to turn totally wild it woudl just break my heart, but i dont wanna break theirs...

 

am i thinking too much into it.

 

All advice appreciated. Thanks

 

Helen, Talullah and Pepsi

Does your other one bite you? If she is seeing that she may be copying. Why are they not together in the same cage? Just wondering that may calm them down together. Breeding as you probably have read on here and in other books is not a necessity and alot of thought needs to be but into it. You can't determine how they will act when breed they can go backwards or stay the same it depends on the bird.

hi lovey

 

Pepsi is a bird i was given back in the beginning. He isnt clipped, not at all handtame and has only been out of his cage once when some else got him out. Both tallulah and pepsi played for ages then after a big fight (with the human) was caught and put back in his cage. He bit her several times on getting him out but i dont know if talullah made any note of it.

 

The reason they arent in the same cage is because they both started with seperate cages and Talullah wont come out of her cage atm as it is unless its by her own choice (once shes out shes pretty good) and i'm scared that if they were both in the same cage we'd never get pepsi back in and with 3 little kids the doors are never guaranteed closed unless i've purposefully let her out the cage.

 

Does that make any sense?

 

I think the two of them might do very well in the same cage i jsut like the fact talullah is almost fully tame and woudl hate to loose that. Plus i'd happily clip Pepsi and see if he came out too i just really hate the thought of being bitten by him cause some birds can draw blood and the thoughts of finding out has got me really daunted

 

Anyway thats enough for now from me i think... so what do you think?

Just like children, they can go from sweet to nasty in no time at all, all you have to do is be consistant , maybe separate cages are needed for the time being.

sorry, might have been unclear! Theya re in seperate cages, Pepsi is on the top shelf of our bookcase and Talullah is on the floor in her big cage.

 

So its tru.. kids and birds are as confusing as each other :S god help me then... that means i have 5 kids/birds to keep track of

yes it does (Laughing out loud) make sense

I would give it a week and see if it is just a stage as Pheobe said.

Don't react to the biting and if she continue you can tell her no softy and put her down and then make her step back up again and if she bites again say no and continue. But I would make it worth while stepping up with no biting and use millett or some type of reward.

 

So when there is no biting reward with millett, biting no reward.

 

I would really work on rewarding and ignore the bad behavior because I was told that there is no punishment in the budgie world. Punishment can make a scared budgie vs a trusting one.

 

But saying no and putting her back down would be okay, I would think.

She is just starting puberty, LOL. It sounds like she has learned if she bites you will leave her alone. Biting is a part of having parrots. You will at some point get bitten. It's not that bad. They might draw a little blood but budgies won't amputate your finger. It isn't unbearable pain. And I've found if you expect to be bitten, birds will pick up on that somehow and usually will bite. If you know how to pick them up right they can't bite you anyway, but it takes practice and you need to be quick. I wouldn't worry about the biting part if I were you.

 

I don't see any reason why you can't keep them in the same room like you are now.