Lovely. My mom doesnt understand that they cant be together and cant see each other, so she uncovered the side of sammys tank. Now, they saw each other and its a mess... lost all the progress with Sammy and the little bit with the new one. She then tried catching the new one while I wasnt here and putting it in with Sammy and that just scared it to DEATH, again. She doesnt understand and refuses to understand the whole quarentine thing, claiming "They only have the brain of a pea, I doubt being together will 'bond' them and not make them not become tamed" etc. Whats a good way to explain it or a site that can explain it?

have her come here , she can read the posts or she can go to www.budgietalk.com I am sorry to hear what just happened. It must have been devastating to you and quite a set back for your 2 birds.

have her come here , she can read the posts or she can go to www.budgietalk.com I am sorry to hear what just happened. It must have been devastating to you and quite a set back for your 2 birds.

 

Heh, she called the 'bird expert' at the store and he told her everything opposite of what I've read and tried to apply. I tried sending her to Budgietalk.com but she doesnt believe anything on the internet... ah well. Im not putting them together for awhile.

 

Update on Sprite, the new one. He isnt shy or skittish at all, which surprises me. He was eating from my hand earlier. Still doesnt really like my hand yet, but will eat from it. I'll take it slow with him. Him and Sammy chirp back and forth here and there, there cages are blocked by a sheet. Sammy goes nuts climbing around the cage. He flew out on my hand once, I took him up to Sprites cage for a look and sprite freaked hehe. Guess he dont like him!

 

Sammy is getting better, I thought I lost progress but didnt. He climbed up on my finger and let me take him out of his cage. He sat on my finger and climbed up my hand while I fed him millet. You could tell he was nervous because he shook and kept moving down my hand and any move I made he stopped eating and looked. He actually didnt want back in his cage! He still doesnt step up willingly, I guess I should work on that before out-of-cage training. He also kinda... bit my finger, but not a bite. kinda just "tasted" my finger a few times before he got off. It was like a bite but not hard.

ignore the bite don't react he wants to see if he is boss or you are

ignore the bite don't react he wants to see if he is boss or you are

 

Exactly what I did. No reaction :-) Sprite seems to look his corner, guess it makes him feel safe?

 

Sammy was out earlier on my hand. First he was being stubborn, jumping off onto the top of his cage. Then he saw my Bearded Dragons and decided to investigate. Top was off the tank. He flew right in.

 

I ran over and pulled my beardies out and put them on my bed, and man Sammy was freaked. Ark'ing and flapping, wouldnt let me catch him. Eventually I had to just grab him and kinda cup him and put him in his cage. He's not acting too traumatized, but that was a couple hours ago. But still, even after he wasnt bad. kinda skittish around my hand though now. He doesnt freak but he does scoot away from my hand when I put it in the cage. He'll still eat from my hand though, I guess thats good. Sprite is sticking to his corners, but he likes watching me. Can't find a suitable place far from Sammy and at eye level, so its gonna be a long one. Every once in awhile, Sammy will chirp, Sprite will respond and Sammy goes insane, climbing all over trying to get out. Man I hope it doesnt stunt things too long

oh boy what a scene I can just imagine it (Laughing out loud)

let him settle for the day he will be okay tomorrow

A bit off topic of bonding: My friend has 2 keets. He hand trained one when he got it a year ago but never bothered with the other, and NEVER pays any attention to them. The birds will start chirping to each other and he'll throw pillows at the cage etc to shut them up.

 

I can't tell you how disturbing I found this. Since your friend has decided to keep these birds, can you tell him how cruel it is to throw things at his birds? It can be termed abuse. If they are so very noisy, they are probably trying to tell him some needs of theirs are not being met. Maybe you can point him towards the forum???

 

Lovely. My mom doesnt understand that they cant be together and cant see each other, so she uncovered the side of sammys tank. Now, they saw each other and its a mess... lost all the progress with Sammy and the little bit with the new one. She then tried catching the new one while I wasnt here and putting it in with Sammy and that just scared it to DEATH, again. She doesnt understand and refuses to understand the whole quarentine thing, claiming "They only have the brain of a pea, I doubt being together will 'bond' them and not make them not become tamed" etc. Whats a good way to explain it or a site that can explain it?

 

Tell her quarantine is to prevent as much as possible the transfer of illness from one bird to another. It will be more expensive taking two birds to the vet than one, medications will be needed for two birds instead of one, and the dosing of the medications can be difficult. And why take the chance of making your original bird ill if it can be prevented? As far as having the brain of a pea, tell her their brains may be small, but parrots (and budgies are parrots) are at an emotional level equivalent to a two year old child, and the have the intelligence of a two to four year old child. They are by no means stupid.

 

 

And if you still cannot keep them in seperate rooms, do what you can to minimize contact through you - meaning clean up after and handle the new bird after you do your original one. You can still tame them in the same room, it will just take a lot more patience. Just perservere.

Wow thanks Rainbow!

 

One question, the newest one is for sure a male, and he's alot more affectonate it seems. If I stick my finger up in the bars, he'll kinda 'kiss' them. He's absolutely not scared of my hand or me in any way. He does move when I stick my hand in there, but not like Sammy was at first. He alreadys eats straight from my hand/fingers from the bar AND in the cage. I'm gonna keep talking to him and feeding him, then start finger training. Hopefully he'll tame easier then sammy! Sammy is turning into a rebel child!

 

I think he's getting adjusted though, he's perching with one foot. I also saw Sprite perching with one foot in the store, another reason I picked him.

 

I'm gonna keep working with Sammy but Sprite is my main interest FTB.

 

By the way, I read/heard that males are more affectionate and alot easier to tame then females. Is this true? I also think Sammy is a female :-X

Wow - major update. I seperated Sammy and Sprite, completely. Sammy became REALLY affectionate! He sat on my finger by my cage and warbled, ate millet, and just sat there. Kissed my nose etc, preened my finger a bit. He sat on my finger for half an hour! It's strange. Sprite goes back tomorrow, I hate to get rid of him because he's a sweetheart too. Oh well.. thanks for the advice everyone!