Posted June 7, 200619 yr Just thinking about extending my aviary. I was condemplating using treated pine 150ml in diam. Has anyone had problems using this pine in construction of aviaries. I certainly would not use smaller pieces that they could chew on, however large diam pine might be okay. Any thoughts on this matter would be most welcome. Cheers
June 7, 200619 yr Just thinking about extending my aviary.I was condemplating using treated pine 150ml in diam. Has anyone had problems using this pine in construction of aviaries. I certainly would not use smaller pieces that they could chew on, however large diam pine might be okay. Any thoughts on this matter would be most welcome. Cheers Do you mean this stuff ?? I don't know how you would go with fresh treated pine...this lot has had years before budgies went in there. I do know that they don't chew on it though. I wouldn't drill into it for fear they may nibble on the sawdust from it. I really would worry about fresh stuff that hadnt been sun seasoned for awhile. Obviously the treatment is still in the timber, but I have had no problems with my aged treated timber and the budgies. Edited June 7, 200619 yr by Bubbles
June 7, 200619 yr I think the key is if the chemical in the lumbar is safe or not. I would go more with doing something homemade or finding out what the lumber is treated with first and ensuring it is safe.
June 7, 200619 yr Personally, if I was building an aviary ( and I didnt build this one...it came with the house ) I would NOT choose to use treated timber as my building material.....not for an aviary. I believe the treatment to the timber is chemicals of a highly toxic nature. However the chemicals chosen for the purpose of a wood preservative, though toxic, are specifically designed to stay in the heart of the wood and not leach into soils or plants. The chemicals themselves sound scary, so do your own research and examine the pros and cons. i.e. QUOTE ...CCA mixtures contain copper, arsenic, and chromium compounds. There are three different types varying in the percentage of these chemicals. All three types are equally effective and are used to treat lumber, plywood, and timbers where cleanliness is important. CCA gives wood a greenish tint that eventually weathers to gray, although a new process has been developed giving CCA treated wood a brown color. ACA is used for many of the same uses as CCA. Copper and arsenic compounds are dissolved in ammonia. After treatment the ammonia evaporates leaving leach-resistant copper arsenate in the wood. All wood preservatives are toxic substances and care should be used in their selection. Many broadleaved plants may be injured or killed if their roots or stems touch freshly treated penta or creosote landscape timbers. After a few years, as the wood weathers, this effect diminishes. Some plants, including many grasses, are not affected even by freshly treated wood.
June 8, 200619 yr Author Personally, if I was building an aviary ( and I didnt build this one...it came with the house ) I would NOT choose to use treated timber as my building material.....not for an aviary. I believe the treatment to the timber is chemicals of a highly toxic nature. However the chemicals chosen for the purpose of a wood preservative, though toxic, are specifically designed to stay in the heart of the wood and not leach into soils or plants. The chemicals themselves sound scary, so do your own research and examine the pros and cons. i.e. QUOTE ...CCA mixtures contain copper, arsenic, and chromium compounds. There are three different types varying in the percentage of these chemicals. All three types are equally effective and are used to treat lumber, plywood, and timbers where cleanliness is important. CCA gives wood a greenish tint that eventually weathers to gray, although a new process has been developed giving CCA treated wood a brown color. ACA is used for many of the same uses as CCA. Copper and arsenic compounds are dissolved in ammonia. After treatment the ammonia evaporates leaving leach-resistant copper arsenate in the wood. All wood preservatives are toxic substances and care should be used in their selection. Many broadleaved plants may be injured or killed if their roots or stems touch freshly treated penta or creosote landscape timbers. After a few years, as the wood weathers, this effect diminishes. Some plants, including many grasses, are not affected even by freshly treated wood. Thank you very much for that important infomation Cheers Just thinking about extending my aviary. I was condemplating using treated pine 150ml in diam. Has anyone had problems using this pine in construction of aviaries. I certainly would not use smaller pieces that they could chew on, however large diam pine might be okay. Any thoughts on this matter would be most welcome. Cheers Do you mean this stuff ?? I don't know how you would go with fresh treated pine...this lot has had years before budgies went in there. I do know that they don't chew on it though. I wouldn't drill into it for fear they may nibble on the sawdust from it. I really would worry about fresh stuff that hadnt been sun seasoned for awhile. Obviously the treatment is still in the timber, but I have had no problems with my aged treated timber and the budgies. Ta for that.. yes thats what I was meaning. Your aviary looks awesome. I was thinking wether painting them would help if you used a non toxic paint. I notice you are in perth as well. I live near joondalup so if you are ever selling birds could you let me know. Cheers
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