Please please help. sorry in advance this is so long but is so unusual that i want to give as much detail as possible. I'm sat her crying because i know my budgie is going to die. Last year i aquired a hagen cage for my budgie who was 2 years old. I did this so that he would have more room to fly around as he was agraphobic and did not like coming out of his cage. He looked all sad and forlorn in his new cage so after a while i got him a lovely female to keep him company. she was a few months old but full of character but unfortunately she kept beating him up and pulling his feathers out. Someone advised me to get another male bird so they could stick up for each other. So this is what i did. I got a lovely budgie called ken who was so tame he would climb in your mouth if he had a chance he was the best talker i've ever heard. He was 2 years old when i got him. So i had 3 budgies in 1 cage settled. 1 day smokey who was my original bugie was fluffed up and was sat with his head back at a very strange angle for a bugie. He appeared to be eating normally. He would bob his head in a very strange way and shake it. His poos were green like most budgies have when they are poorly. I just thought he had a cold so i kept him warm but did not seperate him. I took him to the vets and they gave him baytrill and said he had a possible vitamin A difficeiency. Within 3 days he was dead. After he died we noticed there was puss around the sides of his beak. I was very upset but i took him to the vets to have a post mortem as his behaviour had been very strange. The vet said the inside of his beak was swollen. I was in a pet shop the next week and i saw a very cute young budgie who seamed friendly so i gave in and bought him. 2 weeks almost to the day the first budgie had fell sick my female bugie started showing the same signs. So i seperated her she died the quickest the night i noticed that she was poorly. So i buried her in my garden. I was even more upset. The only thing i could think that was different was that i had got my seed from a different pet shop. So i chucked that seed out and bought trill. 2 more weeks went by and then ken the tame one started showing signs of being poorly and being fluffed up. so i took him to the vets they didn't give me baytrtill for him they gave me antibiotics tylan soluable which is for bacterial infection in animals. I added this to the drinking water and seperated him from my little budgie Ben. He seemed to get a little better 2 days later but the he went downhill again so my local vets were very good and refered me to a bird vet for which i had to travel. So the next day i took ken to the bird vet. He gave me dried food to give him and said he had a vitamin defficiency gave him injection said he would be fine he also gave me some antibiotics to give him via a suringe and told me to put some friut juice in it to give him some strength. He ignored everything i told him about how the other birds had died and the puss coming out of their beaks. I didn't hold out much hope having seen the other 2 die. 3 days later he died despite myself and my husbands TLC. We were both distraught. We kept a very close eye on Ben. Much to our surprise he was fine and we have enjoyed taming him. Nearly a year later and he is showing the same signs as the others did today. I'm very upset as i'm about to give birth to my first baby with 1 week to go and not knowing what is wrong with my budgie i'm afraid to go near him administer antibiotics or genrally do anything because i'm afraid of what it is and what it might do to my unborn baby. My husband has managed to get 5 mins off work this afternoon to come and give him antibiotics. I don't see the point in taking him to either vet. As good as my local vets were they didn't know what it was and the bird vet well i had no confidence in him. Please does anybody out there know what it is what i can do to help my poor little Ben or has anyone had anything like this before. I have searched the forum with no result. :hap:

Welcome to our first first and I am so sorry to hear about your losses and what has been going on.

 

I can't tell you what is going on I know someone with more experience will. My first instinct is telling me there is something in your house causing these issues if it has happened to all 3 of your birds. What it is, is the question.

 

Where are the birds in your house located?

Do they have free flying time where they could possibly get into a plant or something?

Is the cage have any rust on it or coated with toxic paint (probably not but worth asking)?

 

As for giving the bird his medication while pregnant, I believe it would be okay but call your OB. Being pregnant 2x, they only told me not to clean out the litter box for our cats. I would think it would be okay for you to give medicine.

 

I know you are discouraged on taking them to the vet but what I read was that you first went to a local vet and not an avian. I would suggestion going to the avian first (I know they the 2nd one still passed away) but really we should not be dosing birds for what we ourselves don't know.

 

On the post mortem the avian vet (??) said the beak was swollen did he give you the conclusion on why? They usually do different types of testing to find out if there was poisoning involved, bacterial etc...

 

I know I haven't been much help but I would love to see you get answers and the only way I feel that can happen is by asking some more and pulling it apart.

 

Hugs..

We can't help your budgie as we're not vets. We could take little guesses at the problem but there's no way we can know for sure no matter how much information you supply us with. Most budgie symptoms cover a wide range of different problems.

 

My only suggestion (and the only real chance you have for your budgie) is to get him to a good avian vet. A regular vet is often just a waste of money, you really need an avian vet. And if you don't trust yours, find another. But despite not trusting him, if he's the only one you can get to he's definitely better than none at all. There's nothing you can do for him on your own and nothing we can do other than cross our fingers and keep your budgie in our thoughts.

Completely agree with eterri..

Completely agree with eterri..

thanks for the encouragement i just wanted to know if anyone had come across this before i have had kept pet budgies for over a decade and have never come across anything like this. It's a brand new hagen cage i got last year which is plastic and has plastic coated wires none of this has been damaged. I don't have plants in my house. I have Ben in my dinning room at the mo he has been in there for several months as we are doing work in our living room and i didn't want him to get any dust or fumes near him. Last year the other budgies were in the living room. The post mortem was done by my local vet which was very inconclusive i just got told the birds beak was swollen inside. That was it.

 

We can't help your budgie as we're not vets. We could take little guesses at the problem but there's no way we can know for sure no matter how much information you supply us with. Most budgie symptoms cover a wide range of different problems.

 

My only suggestion (and the only real chance you have for your budgie) is to get him to a good avian vet. A regular vet is often just a waste of money, you really need an avian vet. And if you don't trust yours, find another. But despite not trusting him, if he's the only one you can get to he's definitely better than none at all. There's nothing you can do for him on your own and nothing we can do other than cross our fingers and keep your budgie in our thoughts.

 

thanks i will try and find another avian vet somewhere else.

:ausb: I'm pleased to say that Ben seems to be much better very chirpy and ringing his bell as normal and hanging off his toy like he usually does.

glad to hear just keep an eye on him