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I have no clue as to how these 2 differentiate as I've heard of Dominant Pied budgies that do not have a clear band across the belly, which would make them look like Clearflight Pieds. I bought one today. He has pink feet (which I am aware that some Clearflight Pieds do also have pink feet). Also, is he a violet or a mauve? Here's him at the pet store. At home.

It seems that there are Full Body Greywings and Clearwings now....except the 1st chick, who appears to be a Greywing to me...but have a look. If she's a FBC Greywing then that should solve all the confusion. Full Body Greywing Skyblue? Clearwing YF2 Cobalt? Clearwing YF2 Cobalt? Clearwing Skyblue? Full Body Greywing Violet? Full Body Greywing Mauve? (or grey??? cheek patch confuses me) If they are what I think they are, and mum is a Cinnamon Greywing and dad is a Full Body Greywing...so Clearwing+Greywing will produce FBC Greywings...but then what about the Clearwing chicks? If mum is a Dilute or Cinnamon Dilute, then there should be Greywings and Clearwings...but the 4th chick has dark grey stripes and a bright body colour. Then if there are 3 kinds...then mum would be a Cinnamon Greywing Split Dilute? That would solve everything. To answer your last question first, yes, you can definitely get all three in one clutch. If you breed two full body color greywings together, you will get 25% greywings, 50% full body greywings, and 25% clearwings. You hit the nail on the head. I was looking at one of the chicks which looks a LOT like its dad when he was a little boy...so I am assuming there might be some Full Body Greywings. This one here, for example, dark stripes and bright body colour. I agree with you on him, full body color, and wings way too dark to be a clearwing. But then have a look at this Skyblue...such pale markings and a bright body colour. I'm leaning towards a Clearwing Sky. I don't know about this one. You may have to wait until after she molts. RIPbudgies has said before that you can tell a clearwing by whether its grey markings are clearly defined, or more fuzzy, blurry looking. This photo is a little out of focus, so it's hard to tell. I also think that things darken up some at the first molt, so she could end up with darker cheek patches, darker body, and darker wings. She could still be a regular greywing or a full body color. Willow actually looks kind of like a "he" to me in that photo. Can't make my mind up about this Mauve yet...but has dark stripes as well. Yeah, Ushio's wing markings rule out clearwing, but you'll have to wait until the body and cheek patches feather in before telling whether he's greywing or full body. But then the oldest chick....isn't she a Greywing? Looks like greywing to me, but again, if the cheek patches and body darken up at the first molt, it could be full body color. because she looks a lot like my other Greywing Skyblue (or Cobalt) hen here. She looks cobalt to me. She's a nice one, because she leaves no room for doubt. Her body is washed out properly for a greywing, and her wings are dark enough not to be confused for a clearwing. And she wouldn't be mistaken for a dilute, either. That's the problem I've been running into when working with the different dilution genes. What with all the modifiers they can have, the different types can overlap in appearance, so it is real easy to mislabel them. But I don't think this hen below would be mistaken for anything other than a regular greywing. Here's the 2nd chick, which I think is a Clearwing...side by the Greywing one. You mean the yellow face cobalt male? You could be right,his wings look lighter, and less defined in markings, but his cheek patches and body color look reduced, to me, so I'm leaning towards regular greywing. If he were clearwing, he would need bright cheek patches, and bright body color. And those can darken up when he molts, so it's still possible. So to me it seems like I have Greywings, Full Body Greywings and Clearwings in the same clutch...but that's not possible, right? Well, we know for sure that you have at least one full body color greywing in this clutch. The ones that you think are regular greywings and regular clearwings could still change, but whether they do or not, just having the one FBC tells you that your hen is not a dilute. Clover's genetic makeup is greywing split to clearwing, and that tells you that he had to get one of those from his mother. So she could be any combination of the dilution genes except for homozygous dilute.

You hit the nail on the head. I was looking at one of the chicks which looks a LOT like its dad when he was a little boy...so I am assuming there might be some Full Body Greywings. This one here, for example, dark stripes and bright body colour. But then have a look at this Skyblue...such pale markings and a bright body colour. I'm leaning towards a Clearwing Sky. Can't make my mind up about this Mauve yet...but has dark stripes as well. But then the oldest chick....isn't she a Greywing? because she looks a lot like my other Greywing Skyblue (or Cobalt) hen here. Here's the 2nd chick, which I think is a Clearwing...side by the Greywing one. So to me it seems like I have Greywings, Full Body Greywings and Clearwings in the same clutch...but that's not possible, right?

With the Greywing sister.

Dad is a Full Body Greywing Violet Cobalt. Mom is a Cinnamon Dilute Yellowface Mutant 2 Cobalt The first chick is a Greywing Skyblue. The 2nd and 3rd I assume are Clearwing Yellowface Mutant 2s. Their stripes are fainter than the first chick's, so it is one of the reasons why I'm leaning towards clearwing. I can't make up my mind on if these 2 are violets, cobalts or skyviolets. They look alike. Side by side, the Greywing sister on the right, and the Clearwing (I think) on the left. The Greywing Skyblue sister, for comparison of markings.

So far 2 chicks show white down feathers. Parents are: Daddy: Full Body Greywing (or a Badly Marked Clearwing) Violet Cobalt. Mommy: Yellowface Mutant 2 Cinnamon Greywing (or Cinnamon Dilute) Cobalt. The first chick: I think this chick might be Mauve? Do the stripes look like a Normal's or a Greywing's? The whole clutch (The 2nd chick also has white down it seems). Is there a possibility that the first chick is an Opaline? Or is the down white because it's a Greywing series bird? Mommy: Daddy:

I came across this thread while searching for a solution to a similar problem. My hen laid 6 viable eggs, and the first 3 hatched at 17th day of incubation. I noticed the 4th egg was covered in poop, so to clean it up in order to prevent bacterial infection, I used a moist tissue paper to wipe it clean. While doing so, a poop seemed glued to the shell. I was able to remove it, but it came off with a bit of the shell, creating a hole in the egg (the 16th day of incubation). Immediately blood started oozing out of that hole. I looked up for some solutions, and I didn't have nail polish at home. I pressed gently on the open area to stop the bleeding. I placed the egg back in the nest when the bleeding stopped. The chick hatched just now. If it were too weak, it probably would have died inside. You can see the dried blood inside in the picture above, and on the outside in the picture below. I'm not happy I made a mistake, but I'm happy that the chick survived. The membrane may have repaired itself a bit. So if someone else comes across this thread due to experiencing a similar problem, I hope they'll give the egg a chance to survive instead of disposing of the eggs immediately. Every life is precious, and miracles do happen. I think it's best to wait till the inside of the egg turns greyish indicating a dead in shell chick before disposing of it. And if this happens near to the hatch date, it's worth the shot of giving it a chance. It might not be the same in the case of an underdeveloped chick. .But if the crack can be fixed with nail polish, it might be worth waiting to make sure the chick is dead before disposing of the egg.

This is my first time breeding so I want to make sure. The legs look normal, right? And so do the toes? The chick is 5 days old.

My cock (15 months old) and the hen (18 months old) have 6 eggs in the current clutch (1st two eggs were not viable), 5 of which are fertile (the 8th was laid 2 days ago so don't know it's status yet). She;s not going to lay any more eggs (the next egg was supposed to arrive today but it didn't and her swelling subsided). The first egg is due to hatch on the 7th of December if all goes well. The problem I've been facing for about 2 weeks is that prior to the arrival of the first egg (about 3-4 days) I've noticed that the cock has been losing weight. Most people say that it is normal for first time birds to have some problem. The hen raised 3 clutches successfully before at her previous owner's place. I have raised this cock since he was about 3 months old. He is a fine active cock, can talk, very affectionate. However he feeds the hen and doesn't eat for himself, unless I put food near his mouth with my hand. He didn;t do this before. He would eat and drink fine prior to the arrival of the eggs. I offer them spinach, eggfood mixed with moist bread, protein and seed mix every day. He just won;t eat unless the hen asks for food. Today I found his crop flat, a little caved in. I fed him spinach leaves, took him out and he ate seeds out of my hand till his crop filled up (he ate for an HOUR). I am afraid things might get worse once the chicks arrive. There might be a possibility he might eat more and keep some food for himself if he has to feed the chicks and the hen...or he just might starve himself to death. He won;t eat any soft food I provide him. I don;t want to lose my friend. I don;t know what;s wrong. I might have to handfeed the chicks as I have no other pair breeding. Is there something I could do for him, because he'll starve if I don;t feed him at least once a day. To make matters worse, he started a moult again (he finished with his last moult 2 months ago, so this was not expected) Or should I separate him from the hen and allow her to raise the chicks on her own. and help her feed the chicks when they;re about 5 days old?

1. Do they have to mate the same day the egg is laid? My hen laid her 6th egg today, but I was asleep in my room all day so the lights were out. So they didn't get to mate before the egg was laid most probably (unless they can mate in the dark???). Is there a chance this egg could be fertile? They did mate yesterday. Usually I see them mating even on the day, a few hours before an egg is laid. 2 eggs are fertile so far. Will candle another egg tomorrow to know if that is fertile too. 1st egg was infertile, 2nd was broken. 2. Is there a way to assume that a hen is done laying eggs the day she lays her last egg? She laid 6 eggs this time. She laid 4 eggs the last time. So there's a possibility this might have been her last this clutch, but I don't know for sure. I know if there's another one I'll see it the day after tomorrow. But can I look for any signs that can confirm she's done or there's another on the way?

It's the same guy here. So the standards for pink feet don't only apply to specific mutations it seems.

From what I have been told, and read on several articles, Cinnamons, the Pieds, Inos, Fallows always have pink feet and most other mutations are supposed to have bluish grey coloured feet. I have Cinnamon Dilute, Full Bodied Greywing, Normal, Opalines, Greywing and a Dominant Pied in my flock. Only my male Opaline has a bluish grey feet. All others have Pink Feet! Cinnamon Dilute and the Dominant Pied are expected to have pink feet so that's all right. But then why do others have that? All my Girls: Cinnamon Dilute Yellowface 2 Skyblue, Greywing Cobalt and Opaline Mauve, with their pink feet. The Boys with their Pink Feet: FBC Greywing Violet Cobalt, Dominant Pied Violet Skyblue, Normal Yellowface 2 Violet Skyblue. Sky Emmett Winter Only this guy has them bluish black/grey coloured. Opaline Skyblue (Milo)

Then what do you think she is?

I've been in doubt of Autumn's mutation since I've had her for around 4-5 months. She has both black and grey stripes...and even 2 of her throat spots appear quite dark, looks like black, or probably is black. She has Pink feet, which I was told cannot be present on a normal Greywing. So I wondered if she were a Cinnamon Greywing....as Cinnamons often have Pink Feet. I was told she's some sort of hybrid (ouch) as she doesn;t have the typical Grey tail quill like Greywings do. She has it clear with grey coloured tail feather.. At first I thought she was dirty, so appeared like and odd greywing...but then she moulted and now she looks like this. However I recently came across Barrie Shutt's Website (click and find Texas Clearbody) because I remembered that Texas Clearbodies do have grey and black stripes...and after comparing the pictures, the colour of the stripes look the same to my inexperienced eyes, + those have Pink Feet too! But then she has too much colour to be a clearbody. But then she's a hen...so makes it more likely she'd be a TCB or Cinnamon combined with Greywing. I was also told by a Breeder of TCB that she looks like a TCB to him as well here. Before moulting. After moulting/