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Finnie, no As I said, her father is Albino and her mother is Lacewing. So, she can not be a Lacewing. She can be only Albino. But she has these faint cinnamon spots. I'd like to know, if that happens often enough for Albinos generally? He's not just a Cinnamon cock. He's a Cinnamon split to Ino. That's why he can have daughters - Lacewings, cannot he? His mate is an Albino, not a Lacewing. That's why he can not have with her sons-Lacewings. But he can have with her Inos - both sons and daugthers. If this chick is a female, she can be Ino, but she can be a Lacewing too, depending which chromosome the father passed to her. But if this is a son, he may be only an Albino. And I'm still very curious, if such cinnamon spots are often enough seen at Albinos?

Hello everybody I’ve been asked if an Albino may have faint cinnamon spots? One breeder has such a hen: The parents of this hen are Albino (cock) and Lacewing (hen). As you can see, this hen has faint cinnamon spots. The breeder paired this hen with such a cock: He is Violet Cinnamon split to ino. His parents are Olive Cinnamon Opaline cock and Lacewing hen. The pair gave such chicks: Grey Cinnamon Opaline hen Violet Normal cock Sky-blue Normal cock Grey Nornal cock Ino cock (hen?) Here it is (now there is the first moulting): This Ino chick also has faint cinnamon spots. The question is, if Albinos may have such spots? If this chick may be a Lacewing (if it’s female, of course)?

Bird Junky, thank you I know this site Unfortunately, it's not helpful, speaking about my question.

Neville, thank you very much! I see Does anybody have the pics of Cinnamon Fallows? May you put them here?

Finnie, thank you very much for the answer From this: I understand that there is no way to distinguish a Cinnamon Fallow and a Lacewing visually Once again, thank you

Hello everybody I've been asked, how to distinguish a Cinnamon Fallow and a Lacewing, and I failed to answer. May anybody help me with that?

Finnie, thank you for your support..

BudgieOwner, thank you..

Dave_McMinn, thank you for your kind words. FerDinand will always live in my heart..

Clouds birds, I guess that excessive feather growth demands too much of nutritions. The nutritions don't come to important organs and these organs don't develop normally. So, it's a question of time, when something in the organism stops working..

**KAZ**, robyn, thank you for your support. It's very sad to lose them, yes.. **KAZ**, I'm grieved to hear that your FD also passed away.. Poor creatures. I hope, one day people invent something that will help FDs live longer..

Today is his birthday.. He is 4 months old today.. Today he died.. Quietly and without any sufferings... It's very, very, sad... I love him...

robyn, **KAZ**, thanks twisted, your picture has disappeared (( It's a pity(( After the 1st trimming I noticed that he had difficulties with preening and decided to cut his double and triple feather to make them ordinary ones: Today FerDinand is 3 months old Now he looks like this: He is very active, often makes “wings gymnastics” and jumps, trying to fly: http://video.yandex....rieux/view/227/

Robyn, **KAZ**, thank you very much for warning. In fact, I've already read the article of Mr. Stephen Fowler and also I've found the article of Mr. Jim Marshall from Canada who has bred 104 FD's and I know that the type of inheritance of FD gene is recessive with variable penetrance. After long hesitations I decided to trim the feathers on his face and around his cloaca. I can say that the trimming had a significant results in his behavior: he became much calmer, he started to walk with his head up, he practically stopped these jerking movements that are so characteristic of FD. Now he likes much to watch around. He still walks, plays with toys, perches, preens. He tries to fly – he jumps and flaps with his wings. "I see much better now!" I suppose that his vision is not good, he often narrows his eyes. Also definitely it takes him more time than usual budgies to realize the things. I offered him the "swimming pool", but he did not realize how to splash in water. He is in the swimming pool: http://video.yandex....r=curieux&cid=8 He is in the swimming pool with birds: http://video.yandex....r=curieux&cid=8 After trimming he always looks around: http://video.yandex....r=curieux&cid=8

Another bird is not a brother. There is no information about parents. More pics:

**KAZ**, splat, thank you very much for your comments Twisted, thank you very much for the picture Your FD looks very cute! He/she is GF like mine? My FerDinand is going very well, he's active, plays much on the playing ground with toys. He mostly walks with his head bent to the floor, I think, it's because he can hardly see around. And how does your FD walks? Sleeps? What he/she eats? Mine often sleeps like this, with his head on the floor: Yesterday he climbed on the perch and slept there all the night long (the first time like this):

Tyra, DF Spangle, 11 months Teoshi, Grey Opaline Spangle, 10 months Tashira, GF Mauve Spangle, 7 months Taki, Violet Cobalt Spanlge, 4 months Archi, Light Green (Clearwing?) Spangle, 2 yo Juli, Violet Cobalt Spangle, 1,5 yo Grace, Mauve Spangle, 11 months Richard, DF Spangle, 11 months Shandy, YF Mauve Opaline Spangle, 10,5 months

Our news New feathers on his nape have almost grown Sleeping near the feeder: A very important piece of news – he has a new house: He sleeps often here: He eats mostly "Tropical finches Prestige". Now he is 1 month 20 days old.

Twisted, I see, you already had the experience with FD? Can you tell about that? Thank you I'm looking forward to

Twisted, how old is your FD? Can you show his (her) picture? Do you trim his (her) feathers regularly? **KAZ**, thank you for your explanations! I guess, I don't know well the process of feather growth, but I still don't understand, why it will be extra loading? FD genes make the feather grow constantly. If some feathers are lost, the process will continue. If some feathers are trimmed - they will fall out? Immedialtelly after trimming? Or they will remain for some time on the head? Or they will continue to grow even trimmed ones? When exactly this extra loading appears? Unfortunately there is no way to learn from the birds, what is the best for them. I guess, that a wild bird even with unusual appearance is "prepared" for its life by the Nature. But such birds, like FD, who are the result of human actions, are unlikely "prepared" well for their lives. Certainly we have the wish to make their lives easier and more comfortable. But it's so difficult to realize, what is better for them and what can make worse.. Dusty was such a cute bird!

**KAZ**, thank you for the asnwer! I'm thinking about trimming just a part of the facial feathers, not the whole feather. Do you think, that the genes "understand" that the part is trimmed and make it grow faster? FerDinand copes quite well, but I see that his vision is limited with his facial feathers. I think, it'll be easier for him to see all around with shorter ones..

Finnie, Neville, thank you very much for the answers! I could not believe in the constant absence of down on the backs of Fallow and Ino chicks, but this breeder was very assured and she has had quite a number of such chicks. That's why I decided to ask more experienced people Once again, thank you very much!

I'm looking for the information about FD on the Internet, and I've found that it's advised to trim the facial feathers in order the bird to be able to see better. I see, that my FerDinand has troubles because of long facial feathers and I'd like to help him. But the story of Stephen Fowler (he cut the facial feahters and the bird died) scares me.. What do you think, if this was just a coincidence, or it's really dangerous to trim the facial feathers? And why? How can trimming affect the question about the live and death?? Some pics (1 month and 7 days) Playing with some toy: http://video.yandex....rieux/view/195/

Hello everybody I'd like to ask the opinion of the breeders of Ino and Fallow mutations. One breeder claimed that the hatchings of these mutations don't develop the down on their backs, they develop the feathers on the back at once, without a down. She says that all the Ino and Fallow nestlings she has had were having such a peculiarity. Is this a common case for Ino and Fallow nestlings? Thank you for the answers in advance

The beak is okay :yes: Well, I'll try, but what special do you expect to see there? Only this bird.