Paul from Newy

Fair enough time is like that. Yeah ken is a good friend and when I thought I hadf a new mutation Ken was the man i went to for verification. I should be pairing the ones I have up as they haven't been paired for a couple of years now to get some more younger birds of the variaty. Maybe this communication might prompt me to get off my bum and do it. LOL. I never put violet anywhere near them as I think it will hide the variety as does the Grey factor. I have never bred an olive dusk so I don't really know what they would look like. The 2 I have are both Blue Cinnamon dusks.

Gee I wrote that a few years ago. I had forgotton most of it I will try and get off my bum and get some pics for you to have a look of the few birds I have and I also have some feathers that I took from those birds I wrote about in the article. Back then I had no names for them that is why I put an asterist in front of them. If you look at the breast feather from memory they have a brown sheen on the end of the feathers. The lutinos I bred back then were very brilliantly coloured and I believe the dusk factor was the wild factor. For those that don't know the mutation is dominant. Which was not put in that article.

Did you know a cinnamon fallow is a dead ringer for a lacewing

Hi and welcome Any information / pictures on the dusk would be more than welcome here I do have an article I wrote a few years ago Titled My funny colours I will have to scratch around and try and find it. And post it on here. I don't have a lot of pics and getting them on here might take me a while 1st to dig them up and second to get them on here. I only have 2 Dusks at the moment and have never kept many as they are just a little thing to play around for me. That is why I gave a few to Brian Turner and maybe even Ken Yorke. Not sure now to ensure they grew in numbers and by the sounds of it they have. will try to dig up the article it goes pretty well bakee to the 1st bird I produced and at the time diddn't realise it was a mutation. Hi Paul, welcome to the BBC forum and I hope you enjoy your stay. As a past (but starting again)rare mutation breeder I am most interested in this mutation. I have a copy of your article and if you have trouble finding yours I would be happy to post with your permission. I have spoken to Ken Yorke about his mutation and he makes reference to it as the second dark factor. Ken has detailed the down colour as being a dull white. Do you agree with this? Of the people who you are aware that have this mutation do any of them breed Clearwings and may have possibly used the Dusk in them? The reason I ask is that I have a Clearwing here that originates from NBC and appears visuallyOlive. His father is stated as Olive and mother Light Green, but this would produce Dark Green, not Olive. I have paired this Olive to a Light Green Cinnamon hen, produced two chicks. On feathering up one appears to be a regualr Dark Green and the other looks like dad, Olive in colour. Again, if he was Olive and paired to a Light Green it should produce 100% Dark Greens. Will try and get some pics on weekend. RIP its cool to post the article as it saves me from looking for it. lol. A bit of history the 1st bird was bred out of a Lutino. So looking back it may have been a dusk lutino and the mutation may have been around for a few years with no one taking any notice of it. Brian turner and Ken Yorke both breed clear wingsso quite possible is a dusk. I have show them as Olives and won breeders trophies with them in the past. Some other names I've heard them called is a Newcastle Blue, Brian Turner came up with the name and he had quite a lot of then up to show standard until his avairy was broken into about 2 years ago. I also have feather samples from some of the very 1st birds once I identified them. including a lutino and both green and blue series.

I have been a Show manager for about 12 to 15 years not sure how long now. LOL How do we get more exhibitors to come along every year we try to put the best show on we can. as do every club but the nubers seem to be falling steadily each and every year. Tell me what your club does well or any ideas that you can share that might help all clubs do the best by the exhibirs as I believe the show is for the birds and also the exhibitor. Not for the club hosting the event if that makes sence.

Our club has all that stuff the main thing is you need someone who is enthusiastc about his job. Unfortunately most people willing to get in and have a go have been doing it for years. At the moment our secretary has just come back on the committee from a brief rest and he is really enthusiastic and making thing more enjoyable. Another problem clubs can have is a few people to do all the work and new members are ignored as they are trying to make the night or show happen.

I agree with chook unfortunatey everyone wants to run before they walk. Purchasing related pairs from someone who is willing to help you is a far better more afordable and a quicker way to getting amongst the awards then buying birds from an auction. Those who spend heaps don't always breed the better birds. be patiant I never won my 1st grand champion for 15 years then I won 4 with 2 different birds.

Hi and welcome Any information / pictures on the dusk would be more than welcome here I do have an article I wrote a few years ago Titled My funny colours I will have to scratch around and try and find it. And post it on here. I don't have a lot of pics and getting them on here might take me a while 1st to dig them up and second to get them on here. I only have 2 Dusks at the moment and have never kept many as they are just a little thing to play around for me. That is why I gave a few to Brian Turner and maybe even Ken Yorke. Not sure now to ensure they grew in numbers and by the sounds of it they have. will try to dig up the article it goes pretty well bakee to the 1st bird I produced and at the time diddn't realise it was a mutation.

I have a fair bit of info on the Dusk as I was the person who identified the mutation and still have a few in the avairy. I have only just came upon this forum and I like what I read. Its good to know that the mutation is growing as I only had a few and gave them to a few guys in the Newcastle region to hopefully keep the variety going.