Thanks so much, this helps me, for the time being should I keep the emotional budgie seperate to the other babies( the ones that are left from another box) I can say It wasnt a pretty sight when I found the 2 dead one,s lucky i was there in time to save 2 babies, which are coming along well... and mother is taking care of them fantasticly, I am to scared to put the other back in just incase it does a repeat and gets the remaining 2 budgies, Hopefully the other bird cage will be here in the next..fingers crossed...thaznks again and merry xmas