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Looks great splat Very smart idea.

I think would be a fine cage to hold birds in if it is only to hold babies or quarintine (can't spell it right :question: )

Well here is one of my chicks, Light Green Cinnamon Opaline: Her Father (same as her): A Grey green Cinnamon Opaline Hen:

I am glad none of the birds were affected! Haha, Agreed!

Whoops sorry Kaz, I meant one like yours. Like this : http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11844690/Plas...For_Poultry.jpg

I thought you said the hen didn't breed? I would assume the mother would be split blue/violet.

I have my seed in a normal seed dispenser, like you can see in the second aviary of Kaz's. I find this is good, but the husk needs to be blown off regularly. I have a bird-bath in my aviary, which I find is quite useful in summer where they can have baths as well, I also have a water dispenser like the seed mounted on a few bricks so the ground birds can get to it, but dirt doesnt flick up.. I also have some seed pans on the floor for quails and those ground-loving budgies.

I agree! Very beautiful birds Kaz. That pale lavender is just the cutest.....

When I say ran out of seed, I meant in a seed bin I keep next to their cages. Thankyou Kaz... I think I have seen them at my club before. I think i will look into getting some. And yes, I have made a new routine that I check each morning.

Thankyou splat and Kaz. I think I have heard about the jar feeders. Are they the ones that are like an upside down jar and it is like an auto-refill kind off? I can seriously tell you all that night I actually felt like I wanted to never look at my birds again. There is a difference to finding a bird dead, and having one literally die in your hands as you try to save it. I also agree splat, as I have also had that experience. On my second time crop-needling, I had a bird die momentarily in my hands, I was at my club and being taught how to do it, and the bird reacted badly. even though it wasn't my fault, it still scared the living daylights out of me!

it did not work for you....you lost 2 birds. nearly every day is not good enough...it should be EVERY day. try to install some lights so you can check birds any time. quick glance is not good enough....you should check feeders, blow away husks and top up if necessary and you should change water every second day or every day in hot weather. it is also about checking the birds for signs of illness...especially breeding pairs and chicks have to be checked twice a day. I am actually not even going to bother. The reason my 'routine' failed, as it could to anyone, is because I ran out of seed. :bump: ARGH! I seriously am not even going to bother. I do not need c*** from you, when I have had birds for 3 years and my "routine" has worked perfectly fine.If you can tell me that your routine is completley foolproof, then I apolgise. You do not know many important facts to the story..... and members on here wonder why some people don't like this forum! While it is fine to help people, I understand what I did was wrong and I have made changes so this won't happen!! I repeat!: All I wanted was advice so that I can try and improve my care towards my birds! Thankyou for ruining my night.

This routine works best for me. I do check my birds nearly every day when I come home from school, but it is sometimes dark. I also just quickly glance at the feeders most days, and I know from experience that my birds cannot eat a full cup of seed in 3 days I am not going to make up excuses on what happened, and I know what happened was wrong. When I was making this thead, I almost didn't include the story becuase I know that sometime on this forum, some people don't understand what has happened. I made this thread to get advice on what I can do when I froze, as I am always striving to care for my birds better. I did not make this thread to get sympathy or to be told how I can make sure my birds get seed. I believe I take good care of my birds, and when one accident happens, I do not believe that is a reason to shut down my whole flock and breeding.

Hi guys. I would like to share a personal experience with you all. I realise now that what I did was wrong, and I have well and truly learnt my lesson.It would have been about a month ago now, I put my pairs down for breeding. I go around to each of my four cages each Saturday and Wednesday, and do their seed/water etc. I keep my birds under our outside pagola/room type space. Because my avairies are on the opposite side of the house and down a path a bit, I keep a bin of seed near my boxes so I dont need to walk around the other side of the house. One of my pairs didnt have chicks yet, so they weren't going through seed as quickly. I got home Wednesday night, and I didn't do the birds that night. By the time Saturday came around, All the birds were fine on seed still, including the other three with their chicks. I did the ones with chicks first, and it just so turned out that I ran out of seed in the bin by the time I came to the last pair. I thought Well that is okay, I will fill the bin up when I go around to fill up the aviary birds seed. And I did. Wednesday came around and I arrived home from school to find the hen of the pair dead, and the cock bird very spasming and fluffed up, and not responding. It had turned out that while I had filled the bin up, I had forgotten to fill their seed, so they had none left. Please do not hold this against me because of my age, or because I am new to birds. I understand what I did was wrong, and I can tell you that I felt pretty like s*** that night. So I brang the cock bird in. I put him in a hosptial cage and kept him near the heater. He was so unresponsive at this time that he didn't pick at the seed. I have crop-needled my budgies before, In fact quite alot as I hand-reared 4 chicks for 2 weeks with it. I was in shoot mode, mixing up hand-rearing formula and honey. I was just about to crop-needle him. I froze up. I couldn't do it. I don't know why, it is stupid now that I look at it. A good bird died that night because I made two mistakes. Has anyone ever shared a similar experience, and how did you get past it? I have not attempted to needle a bird since then, becuse the need has not arrived. But I wonder, if the need does arise, what will happen? Please, I need some advice.

I love him. This is him and his brother in cage. I only have Texas on loan from the breeder, so really he isn't mine. JW is mine, and I realised I put the wrong picture up (That is Texas in the above picture). They look similar. I believe JW is the better bird, so I am glad I actually own him. Texas (right) JW is on the left.

The breeder I got him from has JW on their breeders band, and instead of saying he is ---------- birds, I just said he is a JW bird, and it just kinda stuck

Thankyou he is pretty boy, his name is JW.

Thankyou so much! You have helped heaps. I will put them in a cage tommorow, next to each other. Thanks again!

Thankyou both

Hi All! Here are just a couple shots of my updated, but smaller line of Clearbodys I plan on breeding. I only have picture's of visuals. I have another grey split cock, albino hen and lutino hen in the aviary. I am planning to get another cock bird, as my last one died on me with my best TCB hen in the breeding cage. I am planning to put the grey split to grey-green hen, pair the grey-green cock to the violet hen, and also pair the grey-green cock to both ino's. Grey-Green Hen- I am also planning on putting her to the grey-green cock somewere along the line to help improve colour Opaline Violet Hen- Her sibling sold for $50. One of my firneds bred her, so I hope she will help me. Opaline Grey-Green Cock. - A late red-ringer, so all this will only happen next year.

okay, I have some shots of a couple cock birds I would consider putting her (mother) to: Sky Cock: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...le/RIMG0024.jpg Grey-Green Cock: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...le/RIMG0025.jpg Cock she has 3 chicks with now: Maybe? Light Green Opaline Cinnamon: Aviary Shots: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...le/RIMG0029.jpg http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...le/RIMG0030.jpg

Yup, I know, but I have a policy to myself that I only breed birds two years after birth (eg. only black and green rings this year, the next year black,red and green), especially if I dont know when they were born. *shrug* That is just the way I wish to breed, so I can hopefully get more fertile clutches.

I am considering putting her (rec. pied mum) to a grey-green boy I got. He is only a red-ringer though, so next season. I am also not wanting pied's to be my major line, I am focusing on cleabordies. At the start I wanted cinnamons, but I have decided to only focus on YF Cinnamons. This first pairing was just a little test type pair, just to breed some birds. I have now decided I want to breed just a couple pieds as a line to have a fiddle with, and if I get okay birds that is just a positive. I will get some more aviary pictures tommorrow for you all, and we will see what we can find.

Thankyou! So probably the best advies would be try and find a better hen, but she is okay if I must? Apparently she throws better chicks then herself, so I am hoping it will be okay. Yes, The cinnamon grey is his father. I think th grey-green cinnamon is better in body then his father, as the father is quite small. Then hen also has quite a flat head, so I was hoping it would give me a nice bird. As I am begginer, would you reccomend pairing the two together again? Then hen is currently in with a cobalt split albino cock, and they have three chicks ( I only found out after that the father was split :| ) As for the "normaline", is this just a genetic quirk, or would the parents carry genes to produce a chick like that again? Is he worth keeping, and would he be showed as opaline or normal is he was not cinnamon? Should I try pairing him to opaline, or normal? Sorry for all the questions!

Haha I agree. I bought the grey-green normals and the light green spangle (the bargin of the day, lot 7) which I am VERY happy with, lots of people said I was lucky to get him for only $15

I have a normal grey-green hen I could put him to maybe. I want some more pied's though. Wait, if I put him to the normal hen could I get rec. pieds? Bad shot of parents: Mother: The dad really does have a fantastic blow, but I have suddenly realised I have cleaned my photo's and have none of him, apart from this