Dean_NZ

So sorry to hear about your problems Both with the birds and keeping the peace! Such an uphill battle sometimes. And you have such wonderful birds...

Would help knowing what the parents are :fingerscrossed: Tail does look spangle, head does look pied, and wing pins do show yellow - whether it is green based or YF blue depends on parentage.

Im also looking into getting a microscope at the moment to do faecal smears on my birds. I found an EXCELLENT website for beginners like us! (Link wouldnt work, so i just posted the address) http://www.finchaviary.com/Maintenance/Fec...ar.htm#AvianVet

I take it then that he is a clearwing/dilute? If so it would probably be a good idea to pair him with the largest, brightest coloured dilute you can find. I haven't yet begun the process of clearwing breeding - which I will begin once I have graduated and settled into a permanent home. But I have done some ground research for that time and as far as i know breeding with normals will get you SOME improvements in size/mask/feather/length etc but what progress you make there you lose in wing clarity. Alternatively, you can breed with good show size dilutes, but the risk of that is you can get a sort of clearwing/dilute hybrid - somehow the dilute 'dilutes' the clearwing, so even with a clearwing/clearwing bred from a dilute bred clearwing, you may find that the body colour begins to fade. Its a cruel cruel world! I can't really say from experience, so I would suggest either breeding him to the clearest clearwing you can find or the brightest dilute.

I may be wrong here, but I think if she were opaline, the YF would be present in her primary flights. Other than that (if its even correct) test breeding is the way to go.

Veins are easy to see, but the heart is also usually the first thing you see in regards to the developing embryo. If your torch is good enough, you should see a spot that is beating. I never have any trouble seeing it but family I've tried to show seem to have some difficulty at first.

Not sure what you're saying here. Yes, he's split for ino but he's not split for Opaline as he IS an Opaline. It's called me rushing and not proof reading before I post You are right though lol.

Look for the white down feathers. Thats the easiest way.

I think thats about it... I think Dean's got it, but with the changes noted above in green: I think I somehow started treating the opaline as the ino, perhaps it was better to do this as it seems to have gotten the ball rolling for you guys hahaha.

I usually candle mine at 4 days old. If i do it at all... I often find 6 days is a bit easier to see signs of fertility, but you can usually see a little beating heart at 4 days.

I would suspect she is DEC with some suffusion.

Wow, Im happy to get any violet in a nest, but im a long way off violets with any show quality really. I have friends with 200-300 birds and they only have a handful of violets. Only one big breeder i know has show type violets but she doesnt sell them, only the runty offspring. But I do have one of those runts since I take all the violets that were available and I still only have a handful at best. I am in love with yours splat! Well done!

I think thats about it...

I guess I should keep my mouth shut too then?

What kaz says :ohmygod:

It's reasonable but somethig make me noise, somethig like: If father is split to ino and cinnamon is not posible that gives me inos hens and cinnamon hens ? The two genes are seperate. A lacewing cock paired to a normal hen will only produce lacewing hens and cocks split for ino and cinnamon. A cock split for ino and cinnamon should give you ino hens, cinnamon hens, and lacewing hens. Its just luck of the draw that the ino seemed to pop up so much in this clutch but one or two of the sisters also got ino+cinnamon (lacewing). It depends what you want to do to reproduce this. If you pair her the same hen, you may get more of this particular chick. If you pair her to a dilute blue hen, you will get all dilute chicks, so then all you need to roll the dice on genetically and cross your fingers for is the YF2 and the ino + cinnamon passing on. Alternatively, pair him to a cinnamon hen and if you get any cinnamon cocks you know the cock is split cinnamon. Pair him to an ino hen, get any ino cocks and you know he is split to ino. Pair him to a lacewing hen and if you get any lacewing cocks, you will know he is split for both ino and cinnamon.

Agree with GB and daryl, I have banned myself from intervening with hatching. Just let nature take its course.

Looks like a violet grey to me.

Unfortunately the cold snap hit us unexpectadly overnight which is when i lost the first two chicks. The day was warm and then a second cold snap and rainy day come the next day which is when i found the next two dead. Three newly hatched from the same nest and one sickly one from another nest. But i expected the sickly one to die anyway - it was half the size of a chick of the same age and it always appeared to be weird. It had a large belly, red skin (not pink, very red) and a large purple abdomen. It survived for about 2 weeks but grew very slowly.

If people have knowledge of these things they WILL reply. No answers means we havent got a clue Lol thanks kaz.

I still think its a YF2 lacewing dilute possibly with some suffusion. The sisters are albinos/lacewings. The father is a dilute YF2 sky blue - going by the chicks he is also split for ino and cinnamon. If the hen is a mauve split dilute then the bird you are looking at would logically be a YF2 dilute lacewing cobalt hen.

Here are mine: I got no comments on this regarding what people thought. I would have loved to have heard if they thought it was crested, if anyone had bred similar etc. Glad to see your post now its so similar so im curious to see how they turn out

Anyone able to answer that one? Also, there was a cold snap and over 2 days I lost 4 chicks New Zealand is going through a VERY un-seasonal cold snap right now. Cant find my battery charger so pics arent very forthcoming right now hehe

I am so impressed with those violets mate! Top job. And as said above - its about quality not quantity

Check my breeding thread nubbly, i had a chick with the exact same feather twist except she had two - one either side of each nostril. Tell me what you think. I can already see her feather structure is different, i should get an updated picture. Cant wait to see her after her adult moult. Oh and FAB birds