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Thanks Pixie....what an ugly looking cage... No thanks. This one is better but needs the perches to go across not long ways.

The term visual is taking the genetics to the top of the rung. We perceive the colour of the budgerigars because light is reflected and refracted off the feathers. To call a bird a visual violet is to acknowledge that the colour is a preceived colour and not true. We see a rainbow but there is nothing there. If you mate a violet cock to a violet hen you should get 50% violet cocks and 50% violet hens. But that is not to say the bird is pure and not split to anything.

Lin (and others) you can ignore this part just me and nerwen having a chat Yep I did :ausb: The same gene that when fully active results in blue pigmentation can also be half active causing a colour between blue and green (partially blue -parblue) :dbb1: The hardest thing to remember is that a Blue budgie doesn't have a blue gene to cause it. A normal budgie is green, mixture of blue and yellow. Take away the yellow and he is blue. take away the blue and he is yellow. How that Nerwen?

You have a dilute Yellow and an Albion in the first picture. The bottom picture is not clear for me? The left one is a blue. the right one looks aqua or Parblue

Ash didn't like Millet until he was put in the aviary with the others. He saw them eating it and now he eats it.

I've gone to the wrong site...It's about fish? As pixie said Budgerigars like to fly forward not up. So a rectangular one allows flight.

Yes you can get a safe aviary spray at the pet store or your aviarian vet. I use Fidos that I got from a vet. You mix it up as directed and then dunk the birds. You then spray the aviary. It is great on mites and lice. I also use Chlorhexidine that I get from the hospital. I dilute it 10 to 1 and soak the perches and the feed containers. I do this once every 3 months. Becareful as Eterri says, most pet stores only sell products and don't really know alot about what the product is about.

Scaly face is caused by mites. You will need to get a safe insecticide, but first disinfect the cage and perches.

I agree. But the topic name is interesting facts. I agree that the terms are not commonally used. But some people may be interested in terms deeper than "Sky Blue"

Cull her Hommer. If she wont breed for you. She might make a good pet for someone.

Posts Merged Sound like they are doing fine.

It sounds like a pied. Karen can let you know about Albinos. As she breeds them.

Hi guys...WOW what have I missed. The "Mutations" I have listed are specific to Budgerigars (Melopsittacus undulatus). but yes the book is about Colour Mutations and Genetics in Parrots. Nerwen page 199 has the Recessive and Dominant Pieds? The first is definately a grey recessive Pied, he other two look very good but I would say they are recessive too. What do you think? Hath, as I said there is difference in "common name" between countries. This is an Australian book. Some terms are different. We have people selling Harliquins. :ausb: in Australia. What are they.....? I know we call them Pieds but why have two names. It's like the German Sheppard. Why call it an Alsation?

I did a issue in the FAQ on this subject....No it was Bea FAQ Section Breeding Age & Behaviours Budgerigar's are one of the fastest sexually maturing avian species. Budgerigar cocks reach full sexual maturity at approximately 60 days with a hen maturing soon after. They will display all of the secondary sexual characteristics by the time they are through their first moult at three months. They will also pair bond and display all of the sexual breeding behaviours of a physically and sexually mature adult. The problem is, they are still physically immature and all of their nutritional resources need to be directed toward building bone, muscle, etc. Full physical maturity usually takes 10 to 16 months longer than sexual maturity. Some breeders will mate 5 to 7 month old hens, especially if they are buff feathered, as they feel they produce better at this age. When doing so it is advisable to limit the pair to one round and foster the eggs, then wait another 5 to 6 months before using her again, this time taking two rounds of eggs and letting her raise one. Normally, hens are not bred with until 10 to 12 months of age. By James Bratt

Don't I know it. Had two female together for weeks..... Oh well you learn things....... Try taking them out of the cages for 4 weeks and then reintroducing them. Make sure that they are at least 12 months old. Some may not be fertile. Hen out of condition can be brought back in to condition by the right male. As lin said if this is the first time. Take them out for two weeks. Put them back in the flight and see if any pair up. Try them so that they get the idea and then after the first round rest them for a month and then try them in the colour combination that you want.

Lin interesting points put forward at tonights Budgie Meeting. Budgies (wild) only breed when there is good food and water. Good food and water is always found around the monsoon season When is the monsoon season in Australia.........Summer I was talking to a bloke tonight that breeds winners in the nationals. I asked him when he bred his birds because I had just stopped for the season. He said they his bird breed when they want to. Interesting. I asked how he knew when his birds wanted to breed? He told me he hangs a part of a branch with holes dug into it, in the flights and when he sees a hen constantly going to it he knows that she wishes to breed. He suggests that it is not the heat that causes the trouble but the change in temperature. Cold to hot and back to cold. He has 48 breeding cages but only uses 40. 8 are kept for other reasons. He breeding room is large and is well insulated. Well some people have money

Don't forget Parblue Nerwen. It is a recessive gene in the blue family but is dominant to the recessive blue gene.

Lin for you anything.......what look at the time I have my monthly Budgerigar Club Meeting on in 30 minutes....got to go. Oh okay here is two Dominant Pieds Let me know what Mutation you want and I'll find a photo.

Point 5. I would use a finch mix and add friut and vegatables. Make sure there is a vitamin and mineral suppliment for them.

He will be down for a time but if you befriend him more as nerwen said. He will bond to you. I personelly don't like mirrors. If you can't bond with him, what about a new friend. another budgie.

Mutation - Common Name Blue Mutant I - Blue Blue Mutant II - Yellow Face type I Parblue Mutant I - Yellow Face Type II Parblue Mutant II - Goldenface Sex linked Lutino - Lutino Sex Linked Par-ino - Texas Clearbody NSL Lutino - Recessive Lutino Cinnamon - Cinnamonwing Dilute Mutant I - Greywing Dilute Mutant II - Clearwing Dilute Mutant III - Dilute Faded - Faded Bronze Fallow - German Fallow Dun Fallow - English Fallow Ashen Fallow - Scotish Fallow (extinct) Dark Factor - Dark Green and Olive Grey - Greygreen Recessive Grey - Recessive Greygreen Violet - Violet Green Slate - Slate Opaline - Opaline Dominant Pied - Australian Pied Dominant Pied - Dutch Pied Reccessive Pied - Danish Pied Mottle - Mottle Spangle - Spangle Melanistic - Blackface Clearbody - Easley Clearbody Darkwing Modifer - Darkwing "Cinnamonwing Yellow"

Thanks Nerwen, I am at work and the book is at home.

http://www.birdkeeper.com.au/v2/aguideto20.html "A Guide to Colour Mutations & Genetics in Parrots" By Dr. Terry Martin Here is a bit on Genertics

Looks like this one.

I'll let Nerwen comment.