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All together First one is going to be yellow face:

SEVENNNNN And the other egg sure is not going to hatch. here you have two photos there is so many diference between bigger and smaller...

Sixth was born today there is very diference between bigger and smaller hay Liv... I don't know... I wish you true in other hand I think there are enought chicks for a very joung pair althought they are doing well. each day is mor dificult to shot a photo, rarita doesn't get out and bite my fingers when I want to take her out ( she is hand raised) and also MOP is getting in nest when he looks I'm going to open nest, so may be next days will be so much dificult to see an other hatch.

I don't know in what I was thinking about when I wrote that post... Again Falki I almost agrre in everythig, I agree with spangle and pied heritage but what about green heritadge? and also I believed that in a sex-linked heritage (like INO) if father is INO so ALL daughters must be INO. That's why they say he is a NSL INO LIV This is not my hen I don't know the owner but it doesn't matter I don't see any YF T2 sorry (or my be only the one that somebody said was also halfsider.

The fifth was born today: may be only one more

Sorry Falki, about subtitle, I wrote it because in this form was in Spanish.I'm agree with everithing you talk. I only have a doupt, half-sider (althought she looks blue line) makes all chicks be green line? because that is the mayor question why if she is blue line all chicks are green line? Do you Still want I repost photos?

I didn't write some thing yesterday because was very late. Parents are only in a cage (that talks breeder) so its impossible mother'd got a round. Your right the very right budgie is also halfsider. http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/Era...os/periskm4.jpg Image turned to link oversized, 640x480 are the requirements father has red eyes can't be spangle DF If somebody understand spanish: " Hen (daughter of an spangled (supposed green because is described like green and yellow) and orange wings) Male (son of female albina an grey male =====>>>> so he can't be Spangle DF may be SF but if he would be spangle DF all chicks were spangle but only a few were spangle Adult female between young's is one of the very first daughter from this pair, and also the adult male left Spangle and pied can be heritage from cremino mother (grandmother from father) Now it's all information I have in the other post (in Spanish) if you want to read all : http://pericosaustralianos.mforos.com/1487...-nsl/#ultimomsg They said that they have a theory about halfsider: there are two embryos downing in mother one blue and the other green so one absorbs the other one and that's why in a budgie we have to line and in this case ovary from this female was from the embryo absorbed that's why you see a blue bird but has green birds only the ovay is from green bird (something dificult to read in Spanish more than translate to English. I hope it's helpfull

Some where on internet somebody found this: We have know a good discussion because there is a person who breed a yellowface cobalt female with a yelow face albino male.female parents breeder talks that are an orangewings (????)male and green spangle because breeder talks that mother is yelow and green W're trying that he explain the mean of orangewings http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/Era...os/bb3ff8ae.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/Era...os/bb3ff8ae.jpg http://]http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/Eraperica/Casos/bb3ff8ae.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/Era...os/c8b77cdb.jpg pair http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/Era...os/periskm4.jpg male (breeded from an albino female an grey male) "http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/Eraperica/Casos/f3bb4a10.jpg all the chicks (can it be?) First I think we have to rename mother variety. You first.

I think only one is not fertile No, I have two more hens laying but they began to lay las week so they cannot be adoptive parents, also have one other with three sons but they almos are 4 weeks old, so if them have problems I will try to hand raising them (or the problem ) I know they are so small that it´s almost impsible to do something but worse is to look at them hungry dieding (if something goes wrong I found it ) But I hope they will be very good parents, Rarita's mother was a wonderfull mother layed 8 eggs and hached 8 chiks only problem she had wanted to began a new breeding when the first one was about 4 weeks and began to atack every she have in hand (or better said beak)( included her husband ) fourth little one:

and thats not all.

Now some of my cockatiels (or not the site) still doesn't know if male or female. female whiteface lutina female pearl female lutin¡o male both (photo likes me very much)

Yes I know, I thought they won't going to lay any, I promess never do it again . Here you have third baby out

Kaz curious killed cat (jeje) less than a year. One thing, photos are not fresh, now both have irish and front without bars (not so many youngs, they are young not babys (jeje). ' One day I saw they so much falled in love that I thought I'm going to put a nest to see what happend'. I did a gave a pass back and they began to matting (I thought sure thay aren`t going to lay) but less than in a week they had layed an egg I know they are to youg sorry about that, I promes not do it again, I thought didn't going to hatch anything (also so many eggs) and I think there are going to hatch more chicks.

here you have two my newest pair just hatched second baby MOP male mauve opaline Rarita YFII SF opaline greywings (may be dilute don´t worry about that I'll upload some phots in Budgies mutations, varieties and genetics I have a question: photos' size are too large or they are okay?

Today hatched their second chick, they had 8 eggs, I believed didn' going to hatch any, but they get 2 from to since today. I also have problems with mother color I almost sure Yelowface TII SF cobalt greywings opaline and father mauve opaline first hatch And this one from today the second one hatching

I only wanted to share with you this moment I hope you like it

Father is not cinnamon. Dilute have erange beak? I didn't know that So biological parents are others: I have new photos, I thing we won't going to use them but I shoted today may be they wil tell something look at spots thay are not tipicaly oirder like comun budgie (in line) she has one up one down, and so

Don't worry liv I know it's a difficult bird and photos don't help but with patience and time (may be we will going to have to wait until she have babys) we will know all she hides.look soembody said something I`d forgotten spangle (and you now It can be but my sapngle bugdie is an English one althought father is comun) But Spangle variety has white patches an she heasn't.also talk that in Mexico there are not a lot of varieties since a few years ago (abou 10) there wu¡here only gren and blue (no inos, no clearbodys, no ....)So is think this is not a very rare variety example I've never seen lacewings (of course less fallows) I`d bought all spangles I had seen in my city (3) and they are imported so no parents in city. About that 'dirty ' apearence what do you think about violet factor? somewhere I read that in white birds they look like dirty and they are called pink budgies althought they are not rearly pink.

Neville: It's very possible Falki: Me too FALKI: sorry by now not posibly but I'm thinkig seriously to buy an other one. Nerwen: He isn't May be we have to star defining father color... for me he is greywings yelowface TII SF, But yesterday I was looking at photos from here and now I think he is dilute. Liv: Sorry I don't know the mean of TBC can you expalin please? KAZ: May be I don't know mean of TBC but bird has wing markings )very very light)okay... not all wings but upper part she has Falki: I'm agree but any blue feather nothing, nothing? Elly: I finished I hope Now every thing is clear, may be you need clear photos, I'm going to try that my sister lend me her (if she has one because I don't know )

I'm so confused... I came here looked for clearence and I thinks I'm worse than yesterday I have budgie, my photo quality I know isn't the better but sorry I only have one camera (I have an other an other day I shot photos from the other while....)So I have budgie and may be I can se somethings you cannot. I'm going to try to say you what I'm looking on it while you are writing.. Dave : It's imposible to be skyblue (if growing parents are the same than genetic parents I explained it before) she has to be cobalt (one darkness factor) Father is not Spangle sure Dave: Nerwen: Have cherry eyes (dark red I think like cinnamon not like ino this ones looks clear are red) libby : You said something very intersing that I forgot and I was looking better mi bird. At the same time a spangle hen began to lay but she had bad historial (2 lay eggs broken) so I taken off some eggs. In that momen I had two other hens laying but sorry I don't remenber if I putted an egg with Grey also I think I didn't because the sapngle hen is an English budgie and this little one is very small to be English) The sapngle female is light green opaline and cock is clearwings yelowface type I SF cobalt (so this budgie can be sky as you told)

Thanks every one. I think I will be very confortable within all you.

Not today 's very late and tomorrow I must get up earli to take childrens to school

This budgie was born in my hose, but I don't know variety a lot of varieties had passed in my mind but any fit in she at all. http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb114/l...nodegrey006.jpg http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb114/l...nodegrey007.jpg Carcteristics cherry eyes (dark red), feathers with, yellow and brown. For me it's clear yelowface TII SF and cinnamon but I don't know if she is dilute or anythig else. parents I have also photos from middle brother from mother and a completely brother PD sorry my bad English.

My name is Luisa I'm from Mexico. I arrived to you because lastly I have 'problems' with spanish forums to name my new budgies vaireties and I thought you wil help me better. I have 22 budgies (i'm going to present you them later today only one the youngest) 7 are English budgies. I also have cockatiels (5) and bourkiies (rose and ancestral) and many other animals.