Neville

I'll wait for a picture showing the back

Your pieds are all male. Two are recessive pieds and one is a spangle recessive pied

Type 2 yellow face grey. The yellow has spread making it appear grey green

Me God: Light green spangle Four/B: Opaline Texas clearbody hen Devil: Dark green spangle hen Curious: Light green cinnamon recessive pied hen Six?: Light green cinnamon recessive pied hen Buffy: Grey green opaline hen Bluey: Dark green spangle cock Big Bird: Light green cinnamon recessive pied cock Baby Cake: Type 1 yellow face cobalt Sam: Sky blue spangle

Yes I know I am old and set in my ways but it makes more sense to me to use a term that is understood world wide than to try and change everyone. There have been name changes over the years. The clearwing was always called yellow-wing or white-wing when it first appeared but now it is universally called clearwing. Harlequin is another, it's now referred to as recessive pied. Other changes include "Self", "White" and "Yellow" all now called dilute. Part of the problem is caused by a similar mutation appearing later that fits the description better than the original mutatiion. Using the term "type 2 yellow face" is really just a shorter way of saying "mutant type 2 yellow face". Ideally we should all use the correct scientific nomenclature, but if we did no-one would have a clue what we were talking about.

If it was type 2 the yellow would show in the wings and tail even if there wasn't any bleed into the body. Incidentally the word "mutant" could be added to the description of any mutation as any bird that doesn't match the wild type is a mutant

Checking under the wings of this bird won't tell you anything. If a type 2 yellow face has gone green checking for blue or white under the wings will confirm that it is a yellow face blue not a normal green. Thanks for this quote. Referring to them as type 1 or type 2 seems to be the most commonly used

Here's a screen shot of the bird next to a normal sky blue

Yes I am seeing sky blue. It could be a "monitor thing"

Yellow: Green series opaline Texas clearbody male and a sky blue opaline female Uno: Light green recessive pied Two: sky blue spangle hen Six: Grey green (cinnamon?) hen Robin: Dark green spangle (cock?) Pinochio: Cobalt male Peace: (type 1?) Yellow face cobalt opaline Orin: Type 2 yellow face sky blue spangle hen Lemon: Light green spangle Halowine: (can’t see enough to tell) may be normal dark green or T2 yellow face blue

The Dutch pied looks very much like the continental clearflight pied but I'm assured that it is a different mutation. The Danish pied is another name for the recessive pied (they are also sometimes called harlequins)

Still looks type 1 to me in the second picture. Sometimes a double factor type 2 looks like a single factor type 1. When you get some chicks the yellow face type may be clearer on them

I agree. A hen out of condition

I agree. both hens

I agree with RIPbudgies the hen is a Dutch pied not a recessive pied. This is a dominant gene so to breed one the mutation would need to show in one of the parents

I think your bird is type 1 yellow face. The chicks will inherit the same yellow face type as the parent

Mutations are inherited independantly. This means that if 2 dominant mutations like dominant pied and spangle are mated together you can calculate the inheritance of each mutation seperately then combine the results, The spangle gene: Spangle 50%, normal 50% The Dominant pied gene: Dominant pied 50%, normal 50% If we use the spangle result as a base half of the spangles will be also dominant pied and half a the normals will be dominant pied So the combined results will be: Spangle 25% Dominant pied spangle 25% Normal 25% Dominant pied 25%

25% sky blue 25% cobalt 25% yellow face skyblue 25% yellow face cobalt The chicks will all be normals unless the birds are split for other mutations. If they are split other mutations could appear in up to 25% of the chicks but their base colours would still match the pattern above (or dark factor if albino)

Your hen is not a recessive pied and as you've said she can't be a double factor dominant pied. I believe that she is a combination of clearflight and dominant pied. If a clearflight and dominant pied combination was mated to a dominant pied you would expect the chicks to include both types of pied, DF dominants, normals and some combinations. So your chick would be a clearflight pied

No it's not possible to show show both mutations. You can get a clearwing that is split for dilute but if the bird is dilute it can't also be clearwing because dilute is recessive to clearwing

For the chick to be a clearflight pied the mutation must have come from one of the parents. The father looks like a dominant pied and the mother like a recessive so unless there has been some sculduggery, or one of the parents is a combination, the chick must be a dominant pied split to recessive that just lacks the clear band

They will probably bond in time. Some pairs take a long time to bond and others bond immediately

I agree

I think Elly has explained it well. If any sex linked mutations show up they will be female but if you get and recessive mutations (like greywing, dilute, rec pied etc.) they could be either sex. Both males and females can be split for recessive mutations. Only males can be split for sex linked mutations Why?

If the youngest chick is only 6 days old it is unlikely that the cock bird will rear it. Adding another nest is probably the best option but there is no guarantee the hen won't kill the other hens chicks anyway. Good luck - you might need it!