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Pairing a split to a bird who shows the gene or carries it will give visuals, which is why it's worth keeping splits sometimes

Think of the split genes Trace They're still good

Colony breeding isn't working for you i'd say ... there's either too many birds or too little boxes... you have to be extremly careful or you'll lose everyone. I don't imagine they got in to protect, but i'm sure they got caught in it some how, whether that was bleeding females falling onto them or whether they and their partner tried to suss out the box where the injured birds were nesting, who knows... Either way you may want to reconsider your set up.

The birds are both recessive genes. Without the other bird carrying the same recessive gene you will only get normals. That's how it works. Every mutations is called a "mutation" for a reason. When there's no mutation that can be visually produced all birds automatically become "normal" offspring. Yep, that's right Trace

Only just found this topic :budgiedance: It's a birdy beak moult. Usually the birds will rub it off on a branch and so on to smooth it back over, he'll be fine... many birds get it e.g. cocky's, budgies, weero's any of the "parrot" species It's just layers that are old peeling off to reveal the ever growing new stuff... If it didn't do it it would be thick all the way down how it's thick at the top as their beaks constanty grow.

My bunny and birds are friends (snuggle together at night) :budgiedance: same with my dog, they play chasey around the yard like MB's does... It's nice seeing everything get along

You'll get all normals of the green series, cocks split to cinnamon and all offspring split to recessive pied and clearwing. Presuming there's no hidden genes :budgiedance: If both birds are split to blue you'll get the same outcome but with blue birds also...

Hi and welcome irisha :budgiedance: Glad to see you find the forum a good refrence of information

all look like hens to me

yay, congrats Maesie!!! Will you have internet access from there?

I'm sure there is, although I don't think you'll make much money... Someone may want to buy bulk, although after a while natural components start to get to it and it will decay...

Passwell is perfect, it's smooth as anything... depending on age and how the mixture is done via ratio it changes between a milk consistancy to a thick youghurt/custard one

I don't think there's anything that can really be done about a lorikeets watery poos, they're natural liquid based eaters... no matter how thick you make their food they'll just drink more water to down it... I find passwell works well for them all compared to other brands, keeps their condition up as opposed to some which drop it very quickly... Ingredients: Ground wheat, maize and oats. Whey and soy proteins, maltodextrins, mannon oligosaccharides, lysine, methionine, vegetable oils, omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids, vitamins A, B1, B2, B6, B12, C, D3, E, K, nicotinamide, pantothenic acid, colour enhancers, folic acid, choline, inositol, calcium, phosphorus, potassium, sodium, magnesium, zinc, iron, manganese, copper, iodine, selenium If a chick needs a feed in the first few days of life as suggested on the box I will feed it a yoghurt mixture. I keep my lori's outside in a patio cage... the poo that hits anything it shouldn't gets power hosed off easily

I prefer the passwell hand rearing and also use their egg and biscuit for lori food I use the "rearing and conditionig food" made by avione for the lori's but mix it in with egg and biscuit and a bit of extra raw sugar

I was just under the impression is was a genetic screw up where there genes and such combined or didn't seperate or something...

My containers don't contain eye droppers, depending on the bird i'll either crop it of drip it from a syringe... My two brands are Aristopet & elliotts Aristopet contains piperazine citrate (controls round worm) and the Elliotts contains levamisole hydrochloride (controls round worm and hair worm)

I use the standard wormer that I can get from wherever(pet shop, bird merchant ect, no specific brand... depends on what they have in store)... I admister it to all aviary birds via water source and all cabinet birds via the beak and all other birds via beak also.

I worm chicks once 6 weeks old and going to a new home, the ones kept here with me get wormed next time the aviary birds do...

They rotate them :sad: she should be able to manage that many eggs... any more and it gets alot harder for them :rip:

Perhaps try a "Half" clip and see how that goes?

I also do the "come to me" training, but whilst they're a bub... When they're first learning to fly they're seperated from all other babies... So they can bond with us. We then teach them to fly and once skilled enough we start throwing them away from us and stepping back, they learn to fly between us or to fly back to us, or from their cage to us... For them there is no reward other than have a safe place to land where a "parent" will catch them... You start to run into difficulties when they're given their freedom, My two tame guys used to be totally "parent" dependant when younger but now, only in a certain room of the house ( gamesroom for them) they fly to and form us at their own will but will not let us "try" to make them come to us. In any other rooms of the house they still do their normal flight training, perhaps it's because they're not feeling secure in other rooms, I don't know. I just know they like to do their own thing in certain places. Neither of them have ever been clipped. I think it just happens as they get older and want to have fun :rip: This is a short video of a bird we trained up for a forum member, In the end she decided not to get a new bird, but we kept him and named him Mocha (he's obsessed with OUR coffee and hot chocolate!) http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff16/1l...nt=P5210108.flv - He was only 5 weeks old here.

You should have all normals split to recessive pied, depending on what they're hiding/split for and if you described them properly :rip: If you saw them mate and they did it properly and it's already been 3 days I'd say you "could" possibly expect them with 6- 9 days... Could be less, could be more.. but that's what I'd expect.

I also use wood shavings. dust, I found was too fine.

Neat a DF spangle Violet would be totally white ??? :rip: :sad:

She's a gorgeous opaline sky hen... What's happened to her wings in that picture though?