Cheeta

Bea, Yes hens can be split for some genes such as the pied, but not for sex-linked genes. IF they have it, they would be visual. I'm sure someone can explain it a lot easier then I can!! (Laughing out loud) Hmmm I wonder which 1/4 point I got wrong.. Is it question 6?? hmmmm...

awww, look at them! Soooo gorgeous!! Nice to meet you and your flock.

aww, look at all those babies!!! How cute!! I can see a cinnamon baby coming through there in Kaya's bunch.. how beautiful!!!

okay, let me get this right... well trying to anyway. A dutch pied has almost 'normal' wing markings, and recessive pied has splotches here and there right?? would that make my little Chase a Dutch pied or a recessive pied?? So far no iris rings yet, and he's having his first moult. One of his back And also just a question regarding recessive pied... I was told that if they have some sort of body colour around the face/cheek area, it means that they are not recessive pied. Is that the case? I mean like Bobby's case, he's got the blue around his cheek area, but he's still a recessive pied right?!?! sorry to be a pain, but I'm learning the genetics.. hehehe.. very confusing, but it's fun. Loving it.

I've noticed with all YF2, the easiest way to determine them is whether or not they wing patterns has yellow or white on them. If there are any sort of yellow colouring where the white should be, then it's a YF2. I've not seen a YF1 with yellow wing patterns where the white should be. in the link that you gave Rainbow, the very last picture of the Yellowface1 is in fact a yellowface two but with graphics touch up to the chest area. If you look closer you can see that the chest blue are not of it's original colour but has been touched up to look like a YF2, but the wings are still yellow colour. Whereas the other two YF1 in the pics are original pics, and you can see that wings are in fact white, not yellow. Just the same Shawna's Star, the yellow are only on the head and no where else, the wing patterns stay the true base colour which is white.

Aarrrggghhhhhh... now I'm more confuse than ever with the Dutch pied.. So this guy would fit the Recessive pied outfit then?

awww what a cutie pie!!! love the expression on his face!! okay, here're my thoughts... Nerwen, please correct me here.. hehehe.. I don't think it's a violet, but rather a cobalt since the lighting may have changed it a little. Reason I said that because I took some pics of Goofy who is a 'lighter' cobalt, but in some of his pics with artificial lighting it made him look very violet!! And also I thought violet suppose to have dark purple cheek patches? Bobby's aren't that dark.. Secondly.. is Bobby is Dutch pied?? (I'm trying to distinguish betweenthe dutch and the recessive pied).. Since Bobby's got colours around the cheek area would that still make him a recessive pied or would he be a Dutch pied? I know the wing patterns says recessive, but what about the body colour around the cheek??

awww, simply gorgeous!!!

awww, what a pair of cutie pie.

Shawna, Before I saw Daz's photos, I was going to disagree with some of the experts here by saying that Star is in fact a YF1 and the rest as YF2. now after seeing Daz's photos, I'm going to say that Star is definitely a YF1. I have been after a Type 1 for sooo long, but for some reason, I keep seeing type 2 yellowface only.

Awwww... Linnie and Jenni are both gorgeous gals!!! I especially love Jenni's colouring though!! Wow!!

that bare patch on their chest is normal for all birds. They have strategically placed bare patches of skins to cut down on the weight they are carrying for flying. If you bird lets you hold it, you can try to count how many primary wing feathers have been trimmed. A full trim consist of seven primary feathers on both wings.

Awww, how adorable!! sleeping beauties.. :budgiedance: simply gorgeous.

Thanks Lovey. :budgiedance: I've learnt from the best from this forum. :wine We all did well. considering how hard genetics are in budgies!!! (Laughing out loud)

Glad to hear that Buddha's flying!!! I just love that guy. I can't wait to see Slinky and Bloo's babies!! they'll be gorgeous!! :ausb:

okay, I'll give it a try.... 1) Can a recessive pied be bred from a pair of dominant pieds? Yes 2) Can a dominant pied be bred from a pair of recessive pieds? No 3) There are no known dominant varieties with red eyes. Is this statement true or false? True 4) Is it possible for a bird to be visually carrying the color gray, violet, dark factor, sex-linked, dominant and recessive traits all at the same time? Yes 5) The yellow face on a yellow face blue is considered to be a dominant trait. What is the white face on a green considered to be? A. also a dominant trait B. does not exist C. a recessive trait D. a sex-linked trait 6) Name four varieties for each of the following. Dominant Normal, Spangle, Violet, Dominant Pied Recessive Fallow, Saddleback, Dilute, Recessive Pied Sex-linked Opaline, Cinammon, Lutino, Albino 7) What are the only ways to breed a sex-linked cock? Mark all that apply. A. hen has to be normal, cock has to be normal B. hen has to be normal, cock has to be split C. hen has to be normal, cock had to be sex-linked D. hen has to be split, cock has to be normal E. hen has to be split, cock has to be split F. hen has to be split, cock has to be sex-linked G. hen has to be sex-linked, cock has to be normal H. hen has to be sex-linked, cock has to be split I. hen has to be sex-linked, cock has to be sex-linked 8) When a bird is said to be masking something, what does that mean? Also, give an example. A. split for another color or variety B. preventing the true visual color or variety to be seen....eg Double Factor yellowface C. dominant for large spots on a deep mask 9) What dominant varieties change appearance when they have two genes for the trait? Spangle, dominant pied, yellowface 10) What does it mean when a bird is said to be split? A. two colors present as in a pied B. not visible on the bird but carrying one gene for another color or variety C. two colors/varieties present, dividing the bird down the middle; halfsider Result - 9 3/4 full answers to come soon

Hey Kirby, I'm soooo excited for you... I hope you find a bird that is just perfect for you and your love budgie!! GOOD LUCK!!

Crystal is just simply gorgeous and soooo calm too!!!

great pics Karen.. I love the preening ones too.. but I was there to witness them doing it so that was even better!! I'm just bummed that I had to leave early... would have loved to stay a while longer. Oh, my fav baby budgie today... Bring on Buddha!!! He's one handsome fella!!

Oh LIN!!! You took little Punky home!!! That's great!!!! I knew you just couldn't resist!!! (Laughing out loud).. He's a real cutie pie he is. Now you better take good care of him okay?!?! I know you will.. The grey one looks pretty.

My guess is a grey spangle male.

Hmmm I wonder why they are called the 'Australian Lovebirds' if they are such Cheaters!!! (Laughing out loud)

soooo cute!! they look like twins yes definitely!!!

aww they are just so handsome!!

Awww, they are sooooo sweet!!!! gorgeous.. I always like that little wet tummy patch after a bath.. so cute.