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Repeat.............. and they dont cost much from Bunnings one kind http://www.bunnings.com.au/products_product_20w-stinger-bug-zapper_2262.aspx mine http://www.commercialelectric.com.au/insect_zappers.html works for flies, mozzies and moths. No fly sprays, no vapours.

You are so right, It was cool as when we were there over the weekend. Previous tenants said we dont need aircon in summer but said we will freeze in winter.

Just the one

Today I will take some photos

Began moving house today. No rush. We are moving over a few weeks. Today we took a three tonne truck and large trailer ( use of trailer thanks to RIPBudgies ) and with the help of friends we shifted the first lot. Tomorrow we do the same again. We will also be moving through Christmas and Boxing Day too looks like. My leadlight workshop will be hard. I have hundreds of sheets of leadlight glass, plus tools and equipment. Last thing to move will be the birds ( Ken's parrots, finches, quails and canaries ) and my budgies. We have to set up aviaries down there, even if they are only temporary. Warm day today but the house when we got there was quite cool. Must be those 13 ft ceilings.

I use a mozzie zapper in the birdroom. Its gets mozzies, moths and flies.

With males we usually assume they will be carrying opaline and cinnamon ........either or both. Add that to the mix in case Your hen looks mauve to me.

Enlargements are good to go now Thanks RIP Brilliant photos and the write ups are easy to work out whats what

Thats very sad Dave I know how much you care for your birds and I am sure they all know they are loved and cared for as well. Not one will pass that wont be remembered.

I think they all have varying degrees of how much being a feather duster affects them. Some have a rough start due to parenting issues and others dont eat when they leave the nest. I was just lucky the dad kept feeding for awhile and then Dusty was good at eating once he got the hang of it after fledging. Looks like if the heart hadnt stopped then Dusty might have gone on for a long time.

Nice head roll on them Dean, backskull too and width across the cere. Length of mask to work on in the future. Well done !!!

In light of BBC forum being an educational budgie forum I have approved RIP posting autopsy photos so we can all learn something from this.

If you know of any places nearby with aviaries go and let them know. Many a time I have found someones escaped pet budgie hanging to the side of our aviaries and I have caught them. They hear the sounds and are attracted to it.

second chick is a hen

Thankyou RIP for the autopsy and great write up about Dusty. I felt Dusty was a good body weight so thanks for confirming that....she or he compared to any largish show budgie I had. Its my opinion that had the heart issue not been a part of Dusty she or he may have gone on to a longer life. PS I dont mind the up close and personal photos of the organs...heart etc. I just wouldnt like to see Dusty looking like Dusty but pulled apart ....if you get my drift.

As RIP also said these feather dusters often have ambiguous ceres too and most cant be sexed easily. We will know if DUSTY was definitely male or female.

RIPBudgies off this forum is doing an autopsy on DUSTY partly to discover what went wrong and partly for RIPBudgies to begin a consistent study of feather duster budgies. Initial findings indicate fluid in the sac around the heart causing heart failure. I am sure RIP will come on and add to this so we learn from it. It seems my observations about DUSTY's rapid heart rate seems to have had some foundation. At the time DUSTY died the bird was showing signs of being well apart from rapid heart rate and breathing if disturbed. I had just changed the paper in the bottom of the cage. The way I found DUSTY looked like she or he had taken a step forward, fell on its face and just died very quickly. No poopy bottom or illness.

In most cases ordinary vets are a waste of time and money when it comes to birds.

I agree with Dave

Both parents are spangles so I say you have a YF double factor spangle.

Dont try and match her with any male. She is NOT in breeding condition. None of the birds you have shown in your photos look to be in condition yet. They have that "I'm not well" look about them. They look to have dry feathers and they have staining above their ceres. The hen sits slumped as well. You need to learn to recognise signs of health and vitality if you intend to breed any of them.

I agree

Yes

No you cant sex it by looking at its vent. I say budgie 2 is a female because it has a whitish blue cere. White with blue on a cere means female.

opaline and a hen