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If your budgies have a wide and varied diet then that is enough. Mixing dry powder into their seed will do nothing to assist that....they will still select the full seeds to hull and leave anything dusty behind.

Barrie Shutt's so called Pink Budgie is all over the internet and it isnt a pink budgie at all. He was pulling peoples legs. It fell into a sack of the pink powder he uses. Pays to know whats behind photos and not just take them on face value JB. ***************************************************************************************************** and JB......you already brought this up in yet another pink budgie topic as you know ( or have you forgotten ?? )

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Make your phonecalls, sleep on it, look for your visible proof and then get back to us Squeak

Quite frankly I would put a piece of metal or wood across the floor from left of door to back and same again at the roof level and I would mesh it in aviary or chicken mesh. Easy enough to take apart if its attached with screws

If I bred a true pink budgie and I had great numbers of budgies I could breed with to develop that line I would. A true pink budgie would fetch far more $$$$s than the best show budgie at auction. So, why arent there great numbers of these pink budgies in Kelwyns aviary ? And if he is so quick to offer you a plan to breed them why hasnt everyone else got the same plan and why arent there a multitude of other breeders already acchieving this thanks to the freely offered and so called recipe ? Cameras have been around for hundreds of years. If there was a true pink budgie that photographed as a pink budgie not a trick of the light or a sheen on some feathers, it would be documented already. If someone with his show birds and expertise had this knowledge they would have pink budgies on the show bench by now.

Have locked the status update this topic began and in here is additional comments RIPbudgies 4 minutes ago · Delete Not that I believe for one minute but I find that if you are so damn convinced that it can be done that when he offers you a 'formula' and you say sorry I don't have the time! Seriously, how do your expect ot be taken seriously with a hole the size of the ozone in that piece of literary work. Also he was a CHILD at the time! Squeak how are you going to prove us wrong? You left without the formula! Oh and just a thought. I wonder if WW have a record of this. RIPbudgies A minute ago · Delete Forgot to mention. I have been to Kelwyn's place along with Ken Yorke and a few others and at no time was there any mention of Pink budgies. I wonder why. In a word GULLIBLE

Squeak_Crumble anyone know how to breed a pink budgie? Today, 04:52 PM · Delete · Lock Hide Comments **KAZ** Today, 07:03 PM · Delete as you well know squeak there is no such thing Squeak_Crumble 52 minutes ago · Delete Really? As you know I went to Kelwyn Kakoschke, and he said he has bred three of them before.... **KAZ** 39 minutes ago · Delete A statement like that is one way to test if you know anything....like he did when he said it. If there is a pink budgie there will be photos LOL was that your next question to him sqeak ? Squeak_Crumble 30 minutes ago · Delete I laughed at him and asked him if it was either a rosa bourke or a albino masking violet, and he looked at me quite seriously and said it was true. He said he could write out the formula and plan for me, it takes a minimum of 4 years, but unfortunetley we had to leave, so he didnt have time to write it down. He bred three as a child for a contest for Womans Weekly. **KAZ** 23 minutes ago · Delete Cameras have been around since the 16th and 17th century Squeak Squeak_Crumble 22 minutes ago · Delete okay, I guess in 4 or 5 years I can come back and prove you wrong, but until then I won't mention it again

We began moving over Christmas but we can only do it in two day bursts and its over 200 miles away. Ken cannot retire till August. He can only transfer if there is a job there.

She hasnt got mites. She just thinks she may get them due to birds laying again in hot weather

Well Squeak you are still ranting on about the existance of a PINK BUDGIE and you have visited Kelwyn and still no photos ?? Why ?? Because they dont exist What better way for a breeder to test YOUR knowledge squeak by putting out there a conversation about a pink budgie.

You have done well. MY only suggestion is to seperate your breeding area from the flight area as free flight budgies have a tendency to interupt budgies breeding in cages inside an aviary.

Still you talk about treating mites yet have you found any at all ??????????????????????????????

I havent moved yet Splat. We have moved 80% of our stuff to the new house but Ken cant get time off work so we just move stuff in dribs and drabs. I cant move the birds till the aviaries are put up and that will be end of January. Then I move the birds and I also have to move my leadlight workshop stuff too. I havent culled any birds because theres nowhere to sell them over here right now so they will all go, and I will cull them when I get there

Clancy..... STOP PANICKING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Firstly you have assumed WRONGLY that hot weather means mites. IT DOESNT. The problem you will have is breeding through the hot weather NOT MITES. and as far as mites goes they affect birds and bird babies not eggs. If you havent seen any mites you don t have them. And if you do have an ongoing mite issue you shouldnt be breeding the birds until you have it sorted out. AGAIN I ask you ...what kind of mites are you worried about ??

Theres a smaller circ saw you can get that less heavy and easy for women to use. Once you have used a circ saw you will wonder why you were so scared of using one in the first place. I was lucky...another budgie friend sold me his table saw for only $70 so its just great to use. PS Now I have to start all over again with my aviaries........rebuilding all but starting out with temporary aviaries for awhile ......I wont have a birdroom for awhile either. I will have to breed them in the garage

Whether or not your birds get mites has NOTHING to do with breeding in hot weather. If you got them during hot weather last time that was a pure coincidence. What kind of mites anyway ?

You will have no success breeding with cabinets inside an aviary as you are already discovering.

Well............after making everything perfect for me and the budgies I now have to start all over again as we are moving. We cant take the aviaries and birdroom with us. I have currently got three aviaries that will have to be erected by end of January to house my budgies until I can redo everything all over again further down the track.

Here's my breeding cabinets. I made vertical units that hold breeding cages. The units have wheels so I can shift them if I need to

sounds like a feather duster. They are also known as chysanthemum budgies and mops

Would like to see you stick around here Osman and learn some stuff that will help you and your birds. I know you have been a bit scared off by what some people have said and hopefully they will give you a chance to learn without being too hard on you. Please stay on the forum. You will get better info and help here than yahoo bird answers

Follow the directions on the packet for mixing. Go to your avian vet NOW and ask to be taught how to crop feed a budgie. Crop feeding is a skill necessary for anyone who breeds budgies and too many people dont think of it or leave it as a last resort. You need to buy two crop needles.....one for tiny babies and one for full sized budgies. From memory you may need a 12 gauge or smaller and you will need a 16 gauge for older budgies. The kind they do now with metal section that joins onto the syringe and a plastic tube that goes down the crop is better because you dont have the issue with the larger lump of metal at the end that is harder to go down some budgies oesophagus. I am telling you to learn crop feeding as so many people come on here and are desperately trying to either feed a sick or dying bird or give it meds. If trying by syringe your efforts may be in vain. If you have learnt to crop feed you will save lives where birds would have been lost.

Seems like you are doing all you can. Some budgies take longer and are harder to tame. It also depends on how old they actually are when purchased as often budgies sold as babies arent and are well on their way to being independant and set in their ways.

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