**KAZ**

Thank's Kaz, Does this mean any chicks would be white faced, but their young could revert to yellow faced? Still trying to get the hang of this. I'm not showing birds as long as it doesn't lessen/weaken the composition of the birds. yes They dont revert to YF though, they hide YF. If means they are double factor YF but dont show that they are YF. A DF YF will produce all YF chicks in its nests as far as I recall.

YF to YF is not advised because you get DF YF which are birds with a white face hiding yellowface.

I would NOT say violet.

Check his crop for evidence of eating.

I agree

I agree with the sky violert verdict......they are

Go Kiwi !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very, very young. Just out of the nest I would say. Be very sure he is eating properly. Cute

Based on how the chicks are looking he may be greywing split dilute...........time will tell;

I swear, Renee, by the time we finally get it all done Ken will be ready to move house again. I hope not.

This is taking forever

Supernice hen Shannon PS the eggs in nest number 6 are very dirty. They may not hatch. Three look rotten.

He is a new member on here............ask him http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=26392

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Show a picture of the birds...the descriptions sound a little hard to visualise.

Gaza is beating the pants off both of us, but I believe he benched 30-40 birds as well

I would NOT use it for babies.

So true, I suspect Kaz is holding off showing till next year when these beauties will come into their own! I am showing.when the birds are up for it ( tails moulting etc ) Dont worry.....Renee keeps on my back quite a bit

Very different product matt

More babies .....and some kindie cage babies

You are doing real well yourself Liv I had to remove four babies from a nestbox this morning because the Mum began laying again..... but its okay...they were ready to leave. these two keep going back in the nestbox and the father of the two green series spangle chicks

I just checked the babies and the markings they have are NOT CINNAMON as first thought. Flight feathers coming through on the eldest two are pale pale greyish/neutral like the mothers flight feathers.............making them dilutes I guess. But DEFINITELY NOT cinnamon markings.

He means white lacewings Liv,,,,, he is referring to a white lacewing as a blue based bird.

greywing dom pied spangle and maybe opaline as well.