**KAZ**

Dean is right, and besides there are a lot of scoundrels out there selling dodgy birds. Clubs give you great sources of knowledge, comradeship, and sources of birds. Give me your location and I can help advise further.

yeah and the one in right corner is not dom its rec pied i say having another closer look at picture What are you seeing G_B....when they are so young what do you look for to know if recessive or dominant? Regularity of markings on wings.

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You will see some new pin feathers by a weeks time ........great that Dad is looking after them :rofl:

Terrific news !!!!

Yes, this is very common. They also preen each other and bicker too, just like kids do :rofl:

I'm keeping my fingers crossed. This is the first egg she's actually laid in the nesting box, so I'm pleased! Is there anything else people think I should be doing besides checking on day 5 for fertility, and marking dates of hatching range for those that are on my calendar? Should I line the box with millet/food, for instance? I'm starting to feel like an anxious mother myself. if shes sensitive to laying in box or sitting i would just let her sit i would not check fertility i would wait for the half way point then see whats going on in that aspect I agree :rofl:

Dad is split ino and that makes it a little hen chick. Will be albino if mum is split blue, or lutino if she isnt.

Very good news :reading: :thumbs_up:

I dont think he died from shock or he would have been acting depressed in a corner. I had had chicks like yours after head attacks where they seemed fine for a few days. What I believe happens is there are cracks in the bones of the skull after an attack and the wounds too are deeper than we realise. It seems to take 2-4 days for deep set infection to take over deep within and they die from this. The infection goes straight to the brain.

Birds do get something from their droppings. Whether its just to neutralise their gut bacteria or what I dont know. But you will see if you closely observe parents feeding their babies....they eat some of their droppings before going into the nest to feed their babies too.

I would suggest you go from chick stage. Too much can go wrong doing it from an egg. Wet mix for lori's is specific to loirikeets and not suitable for rearing budgie babies. Send a message to member Libby http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showuser=3634 who handraises all the time....she will be able to advise you

It gets to around 40 at the most sometimes 42 or 43 but not very often. i think its only going to be about 2000 high it is going to be very open but its going to have 2 side covered in 2 sides wire so the breeze should keep it pretty cool. You will still need shade for summer.

They are really nice but you would be doubling up on the grey green eh . Your choice. I do it too if the birds are good.

Love the budgies, love the pictures :thumbs_up: New camera is great eh ? I have your spare greywing mate :reading: The greywing picture is actually the same picture as your cinnamon. Try posting it again

Real exciting For the future..how hot does it get in summer and have you planned for something to shade the aviary from the summer heat ? How tall will you make the roofline ? the higher the better as far as temperatures go. 2400 high is pretty good for keeping cooler.

Oh mate

I am real sorry to hear that mate Often the wounds are deeper than we can imagine and the infection sets in, especially head wounds.

You will see the first hint of colour at the base of the tail near the skin usually underneath....look there for evidence of colour coming through

Awesome...that's going to be a gorgeous bird then Can you really tell the sex at only a few days old? That's amazing! Both the eldest babies have a lot of white on their cere so that makes them females. Cant see the cere of the pied as he is behind the other two.

You are most likely right about the youngest being a pied as looking back on the photo it has patches on the wings. It will be a recessive pied..........white and blue Two eldest are females it looks like too.

Moulting was the cause eh ? That certainly makes sense. They only breed when in their best condition and that doesnt count moulting. Have you changed their seed or diet recently ? As that alone can force a moult.

why would a greywing have grey cheekpatches Dave ? GREYWING: MASK AND SPOTS: The mask is to be clear, wide and deep, (not cleft) extending beyond two large cheek patches ornamented by six evenly spaced, large, round grey throat spots, the outer two being partially covered by the base of the cheek patches. GENERAL BODY COLOUR: Back, rump, breast, flanks and underparts to be a solid and even shade throughout. MARKINGS: On cheeks, back of head, neck and wings, mid grey clearly defined and symmetrical on the appropriate ground colour. EYES: Black with a white iris ring. BODY COLOUR: Approaching full intensity. FEET & LEGS: Blue/Grey mottled. Colour Cheek Patch Tail Quill Tail Feather LIGHT GREEN Violet Grey Smokey Grey with Blue Green suffusion DARK GREEN Violet Grey Dark Blue OLIVE Violet Grey Dull Blue Black GREY GREEN Grey Grey Grey SKY BLUE Violet Grey Greyish Blue COBALT Violet Grey Dark Blue MAUVE Violet Grey Dull Mauve VIOLET Violet Grey Royal Blue GREY Grey Grey Grey