**KAZ**

I have a grey greywing spangle out in the aviary and I have grey spangles too. Later I will try and get photos to see if we can tell the difference

Interestingly one of the greywings I bought in from the Pine Rivers auction ( a Ken Seagrott bird ) was described as a skyblue greywing in the catalogue. When he arrived I was delighted to find he was actually a skyviolet. The intensity of the blue in his feathers is obvious and the purple hue around his neckline also showed it. Only one chick showed up first round and she too is skyviolet. Mother is green split blue. Great vibrancy of colour and feather to die for. She will be a little stunner !

ack ack ack ack ack !!!!

Here is a link to your original topic on your birdroom.............. http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....c=26014&hl=

Love the albino chick........showing directional feather already too

Sometimes an older male in with a younger female in the same cage.........the older male thinks she is for mating. Watch out for that, as she can become stressed and sick in no time if her persues her in this way.

Great news GB !! I can feel your excitement from the other side of Australia

One is and one isnt.

We are at the end where we are buidling the open popout section ( suspended and open air ). I am doing lots of leadlight work but Ken is trying to finish the aviary. But his Dad is in hospital and not doing too well.

I let the parents go another round and they currently have three chicks. Here's one of the earlier chicks

Possible regrowth of feathers ?

I am in Beechboro. How about you try and plan to come to the meeting in Bassendean next Saturday ? You can be introduced to people who may be near you. I could probably go, i'd just need the address for the club. Address is Bassendean Community Hall Old Perth Road Bassendean.............Time ? around 11am onwards. If there are for sale birds you have to get in quick. They will be show breeders culls.....ones that may or may not make the grade as a show bird. Anyone can attend. great bird products table there too and it would save you a lot of money by buying at club prices rather than birdshops.

I Like your use of the bathroom caddy to hold all your bits n pieces :rofl:

Ran out of time today. Sorry. maybe tomorrow :rofl:

Brilliant Many thanks for that Lib....well worth seeing :rofl:

Only VISUAL VIOLETS are to be entered Macka. Not sky violets, and not cobalts. You should know that.

I am in Beechboro. How about you try and plan to come to the meeting in Bassendean next Saturday ? You can be introduced to people who may be near you.

okay.................Just for you Macka I saw your little post in another topic and I just want to bring up a point. A lot of sky violet birds are MISTAKEN for cobalts. It takes an experienced eye to distinguish between a cobalt bird and a skyviolet bird. I am able to tell the difference and I am asked many times over here by breeders more expperinced than I am to identify it in their birds ...to help. Here is an excerpt from a very good article by Peter Bergman The Violet Skyblue The addition of the Violet factor (V) to the Skyblue (vvdd) produces our most basic Violet factor bird in the blue series, the Violet Skyblue (Vvdd). The term “Violet Skyblue” really only refers to the genetic make up of the bird rather than its colour. If I had to put a name to the actual shade of blue “cyan” is about as close as I could come. Violet Skyblues vary in their depth of colour a fair bit. At the pale extreme their body colour is nearly as pale as the deepest shades of Skyblue. Very pale Violet Skyblues tend to be patchier than richly coloured Skyblues and have a cyan rather than turquoise tint to their feathers. At the dark extreme the body colour is very much like a medium shade of Cobalt. Most Violet Skyblues fall somewhere in between the two extremes and resemble pale Cobalts. A point that should not be lost here is that dark Violet Skyblues are darker in body colour than the paler shades of Cobalt. The best guide to distinguishing Violet Skyblues from Cobalts are the tail and flight feathers. Cobalt tails are a solid navy blue. The darker the Cobalt body colour, the deeper the blue of the tail but even the palest Normal Cobalts have navy blue tails. In Violet Skyblues the tail feathers are turquoise at the quill end darkening to blue toward the tip. The depth of turquoise in the tail varies with the depth of body colour. The difference we see in the tails can also be seen in the flight feathers. The colour in the flight feathers of Cobalts is dark blue. In Violet Skyblues there is a glossier turquoise iridescence like that seen in Skyblues but slightly darker that the Skyblue. In general Violet Skyblues have a brighter appearance than Cobalts. When learning how to distinguish between Violet Skyblues and Cobalts, bright natural light is best. Direct sunlight is to be avoided. Artificial light can distort the colour of the bird making identification more difficult. Violet Skyblues appear darker under artificial light, particularly under fluorescent light. The turquoise iridescence can be more difficult to see under fluorescent light. The tail and flight feather method is most useful when dealing with Normals and Opalines but has its limitations when dealing with other varieties. One feature Cobalts usually have is ribbing. In Cobalts the breast and abdominal feathers have faint lateral striations resembling faint versions of the kind of markings found on the heads of Normals. The presence of ribbing can be useful in identifying Cobalts in certain varieties. In Dominant Pieds for example where the tail and flight feathers are white, ribbing on the breast feathers indicates the bird is a Cobalt and not a Violet Skyblue. The ability to identify Violet Skyblues and separate them from the Cobalts is the key to the proper understanding of Violet breeding. The failure to correctly distinguish between the two colours has led to all sorts of myth, rumour, and general misinformation about the Violet factor. The whole article http://www.birdhobbyist.com/parrotcolour/p.../violets01.html

Hi Gracie You had posted your first post hidden in someone elses topic so I made you a topic of your own :rofl: So, now you can introduce yourself and tell us all about you

Ha Ha! Never was seed free! :rofl: I've actually been thinking of attaching some kind of flap at the bottom of the doors to direct the seed back inside. Or I could just open that drawer at the bottom a crack and let all the seed fall in there! Thank you everyone, for all your compliments. This has solved my dilemma on how to house more birds without hubby complaining about cages everywhere. The dimensions are 33.5"w x 20"d x 40"h. How many birds do you think would be comfortable in that space?The thing is about seed...........it doesnt just fall................all it takes is a bird to fly and the husks go sailing through the air. Hardware store.

Based on these photos I would say all females.

She isnt cinnamon

Here is a topic I did on pieds............it was a test. But it may help you work things out http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=26986 The greeny blue is because he is yellowface YES.

He's delightful, that what he is he is a yellowface skyblue dominant pied. :rofl:

Bright blue cere for a girl ?