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No do yourself a favour and read up on our forum feather duster topics so you can tell the difference.

yes But since you will also have normal cocks as well the only way to tell the normal split inos is by breeding them when old enough

$28 from Big W. Why, do you think they're out? Nope......I just thought maybe I should buy some

Where did you get your weighing scales Renee

Very good to have you here Tariq Welcome

Another possibility Giardia What is Giardia? Giardia is a parasite that is found in the small intestine of infected birds, dogs, cats, humans, and other mammals. It is shed in the feces and is able to survive outside of the animal, with birds in such places as perches, food bowls, cage bars, play gyms, and water. People, birds, and other animals become infected when they ingest the parasite. Giardia occurs frequently in budgies, cockatiels, lovebirds, African Grays, and Grey Cheeked Parakeets, although other species also become infected when ingesting the parasite. Can I tell if my bird has Giardia? Birds will often appear without symptoms, but can show signs of loose droppings, weakness, anorexia, depression, yeast infections. Some birds will start itching as a result and may tear out their feathers, sometimes screaming as they do, or act like they have fleas, most likely in their flank and leg areas. They can also exhibit what is known as "pica", which is appearing as if they are licking non-food items, like toys, perches, etc. Testing for Giardia There are several tests for Giardia available and in use by avian vets, such as the fecal trichrome, the ELISA test, Crypto/Giardia IFA, fecal mounts, plus others. Note: We believe that the fecal trichrome test is the most reliable test for diagnosing Giardia. We have evidence of birds that have tested negative under other test methods and then test positive using the fecal trichrome. We also believe that collection of the first morning feces will provide the best opportunity to detect the parasite, since Giardia is not consistently shed in the feces. (For most larger birds this will be the "morning big one." For smaller birds, such as budgies and cockatiels, they don't have a "morning big one," so the important issue is to make sure that the sample is collected fresh, within minutes.) Collection of THREE samples over a period of 3 days is optimum for catching the organism, since it is intermittently shed in the feces. The Merck Veterinary Manual , 8th edition, recommends: "Because Giardia are excreted intermittently, several fecal examinations should be performed if giardiasis is suspected. Samples from three consecutive days should be examined." Another advantage to using the fecal trichrome is that the lab will also be able to detect things in addition to Giardia, such as: flagellates, such as trichomonas and hexamita cyst forms of flagellates ova, such as ascarids yeast bacteria white blood cells, red blood cells, and other cellular components The good news about Giardia is that it is treatable. If your bird tests positive, seek assistance from your vet. Any treatment should ALWAYS be done through your avian vet.

I agree with Splat.

Budgies dont get fleas. They do get various kinds of mites ( feather mites and scalyface mites and red mites ). They can get infested with red mites in their environment thats can go onto the bird and suck their blood. Red mites look tiny and grey till engorged with blood and then look like red specks. Red mites are introduced into the environment and can come from other creatures like poultry, other birds, tree branches etc. Its possible puffs environment has red mites maybe. Time to get out a magnifying glass and take a real close look about. Red mites eggs look like specks of pepper and hide in crevices.

Oh really? cool! You know I don't really know how to sex the little ones - I thought it was big ceres hens, narrow ceres cocks Have a look at the six chicks to the lone mother in my topic........see how 5 of the ceres are quite white. Those are hen chicks and the purplish one is likely to be a cock. Your " hen" chicks have purple ceres.. Purple is male, white is female.

Real nice looking chicks Renee although ceres look too pink to be hens

The single mother is doing well...........feeding her six babies and herself. 5 out of 6 appear to be hens. single mother still doesnt have a name......after this huge effort I think she needs one

This is another bird bought at the auction........my husband chose and bought this cinnamon visual violet spangle bred by Fran and John Mac loughlan $ 110 also a green opaline split dilute cock bred by BBC's nubbly $110 and ....a pied hen of Jan McMahons $140 and a grey green cock of Mike Gearing $100 a couple of photos I havent got yet of a bird or two.....

My old birdroom was 2400 at the plate height and 2700 at gable height....that was pretty near perfect. The lower the roofline the less height you can use for breeder cages and the hotter it gets inside.

Good news and yes...you can leave the Pet stores name up

Black beaks is a sign of under 6 wks........so they too are very young.

Me.......I am just upset that I contacted you behind scenes telling you about the cere staining and to get him to a vet on the 20th and on the 28th you still hadnt done so. On the 20th when I told you about the staining you said he had had that for over a month and a half and that he had been sneezing and he had vomited that night also. Maybe next time you will see the need for more urgency with regard to getting them to the vet.

When I was a vet nurse and experience since as well......................99.9% of most animals or birds or creatures that had brain damage had a tendency to walk or fly in circles,....round and round and round. Repetitive behaviour. On the brain damage diagnosis I have a tendency to agree with GB. I was just looking back through topics re Dalek. in particular the one where you had him doing staged photos http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=30591&view=findpost&p=363472&hl=dalek&fromsearch=1 do you recall me sending you Private messages 20th April stating concern over his health ( respiratory infection ) as evident by those photos and urging you to get him to a vet ? On the 21st you decided not to stress him by taking him to the vet and by the 28th you still hadnt taken him to the vet at which point I commented on forum in that topic to stop with the photo opportunities and get him seen by a vet ? It is evident by all previous photos he was well and not brain damaged and at some point became sick and the illness progressed and took hold. I dont think he was brain damaged at all. A sick budgie at the end will have seizures and it will stagger about weak and uncordinated.

Looks fantastic !! You know if you want a higher roofline all you have to do is either a couple of rows of bricks to set it on or some lower metal panels made in the same way as the walls of your shed and then attach the shed higher up. Doors are easy enough to reset or use a step through.

I had a 3 inch baby budgie in a nest that looked petshop quality at best once. Threw it into the aviary once it fledged and forgot about it. One day a budgie found its way into the triple door area and I had to catch it to put in back in the aviary.....it was that same mini budgie but 8 months later was the biggest budgie I had seen in a long time and feather to die for............I no longer look at these mini budgies in the same way. Weight ? If I had to go on that I would have never dreamed it would turn out like it did, and the fact I had forgotten about it and not sold it on means I got to keep a bloody good bird who I would easily have gotten rid of if I based it on size specs. My best grey spangle I ever bred came out of a petshop looking op green mother and a pretty ordinary medium quality grey green spangle father. If we cull on visuals we dont get to experience these surprises. Many a breeder has onsold what they consider their **** birds and months later see that same bird in someones aviary and wish they hadnt parted with it. Genetics is key eh I cringe when I hear someone has come into another breeders aviary and culled for them based solely on what they see and not based on family lines.........cull to visual isnt always the answer...........my thoughts only.

I agree with Fordmob. Those sheets will take off in a moderate wind...........we have had sheets fly off with heavier things on top than a couple of bricks. Hopefully you dont have to experience this before it get fixed more securely.

Believe it or not Renee there ARE classes in shows for cinnamons LOL .......do you still have that aversion for cinnamon ?

The yellowface as stated by some others seems to be female. Even though the cere has a lot of blue it seems to be blue over white which is a female cere. The dilute is a little more ambiguous ........but I lean towards male for that one.

You have good reason to be very very proud of your pairings and results Splat.............you are one gal who really knows what she is doing. Well done !!

What a sweetie