**KAZ**

Those spangle markings seem to be showing the pattern of a dominant pied spangle.....so what were the parents ?

A couple of the babies ( from the YF sky Ennis cock and the cinnamon grey hen ) on a swing and one lined up waiting for the swing

I think its a female.

Very nice pieds...better than a lot you see around.....well done

Your bird is sick.........no it wasnt the dog.... the bird CANNOT be left in the aviary when sick so quickly catch it up and put it in a hospital cage with a source of warmth ( inside the house ). She may have canker or any number of things. She is ..... Try and remember that your "observations"of a sick bird must only last no more than 5 mins...you observe, and then you ACT...QUICKLY.....you dont leave them in the aviary while you ponder. You get them out of there and you get them warm and on the road to being well. Vet most likely needed in this case. PS if the diagnosis by the vet is canker, treat the whole flock.

Your "dodgy mates "in W.A. still buy Golden Cob by the Pallet or two or three ( via one of our clubs ) :D BUT by the time we get it we are paying about $47 a bag or thereabouts

It hasnt got hot here yet.........and my breeding birds are in a room of the house. I think I will be okay to continue with the help of a mobile airconditioner if the room gets hotter at some point. Sorry to hear about your birds Renee...............hopefully things will improve in time real soon.

Based on these seed prices....................I am moving east !!!! :D :D LMAO

Give it a shot with the vinegar...last resort I guess.

Yep, its the replacement batteries that cost

I am paying $39 for a 20 kilo bag of premium budgie breeder

Third egg is a normal sized egg..........thank goodness our budgie club sells them for $12

Also dipping the leg in vinegar apparently constricts the blood vessels making a skinnier foot and leg for rings to go on. .....so they say

You start it off and we will keep the ball rolling Chuck it into OFF TOPIC

Will put some feelers out for you Taz and see what we can organise

Geez Taz, and a lot of show breeders let em go to petshops under $10

You should have no problem getting some of those Greg..........GREEN budgies are easily available. Best of luck

One way to find out...check for mites. But I just want to say I had a chick exactly like that ones feather thing and it didnt have mites. I will try and unearth a photo tonight.

:D

QUOTE another warning about small birds when they lay eggs the egg can get stuck inside the female in that case you MUST take it to a vet ASAP or it will kill the bird but if you know what you are doing then you can attempt to get it out yourself using your finger UNQUOTE

Great that she is eating the corn. PS I would toss out that mirror if I was you ....they do their head in

They are bigger than most of my past twin eggs

So, I have this large yf grey hen ( bred by forum member Liv ) and she's paired up with a violet spangle cock ( loaned by forum member RobD ) YF grey hens sister was 12th at the Nationals. ............first egg the hen laid off the perch, second egg the same. Then I cut a larger hole in the nestbox as she was so big it seemed she wasnt happy going into the nestbox ( if she could fit ) Next egg was huge !! one inch long, like two eggs in a row. I thought fluke, a little weird and most likely a double yolker ...and today she laid her next egg... another one exactly the same ...another one inch long egg, same shape and size and another double yolker So here's a picture of the two D.Y. eggs next to a normal sized egg Both the same size and shape as I said and both double yolk eggs Candling ( note the two yolks showing in each of two eggs ) So, possibility of twins...............Most twins never survive as they run out of growing space. Twins are rare, so we dont get our hopes up for twins. I have had twins make it to hatching and beyond before http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=14683&hl=twins Other double yolkers I have had These are twins that didnt make it to hatching and another Note in the photo just above this the chicks were beginning to become deformed due to lack of space in the egg. so the upshot of all this is........ TWINS rarely make it to hatching. Time will tell with these eggs. ADDITIONAL INFO provided by forum member Dean_NZ I think it's even more amazing when you know how budgies produce eggs. To save me writing it out, here is a quote: Source: Avian Reproduction Here is a picture of the ovary which DOES explain visually how a double yolker would be possible (if two yolk 'buds' developed and released simultaneously instead of maturing one after the other). As you can see - the yolk is fertilised well before the egg begins even forming: The process of encasing this yolk once released (ovulation) is here: Here is some more info: Source: Poultry help website Because of the internal changes to the layout of the air sack etc and the lack of space, double yolkers rarely hatch successfully. I know of a few that were fertile, but died when they ran out of space, or perhaps the movement of one chick disrupted the yolk/amniotic sac of the other chick and killed it etc. Also, they are twins, but they will be fraternal twins not identical Fraternal means they shared an egg but are from different embryos.

Excellent info Clearwing

He has great lift above the "eyebrows" even though not relaxed..........and he's showy to boot