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Agree with Splat One slight problem This one http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx347/c...dgies/Sting.jpg Needs to come and live with me :hap:

Good info..........thanks for that

resting after laying her egg most likely although some do incubate soonish she may not be. Didnt I tell you to stop checking her ??!!

I doubt she is.....its what I was saying about it seeming like they are but she is only in there to pass the next egg. No, sorry if I made it sound that way. She has been out four times today, for a few minute each time. Normal behaviour for a hen about to lay an egg which is whats just happened.....and not incubating yet. and since another egg isnt due for another two days now can you stop checking her please ????????????????????

I doubt she is.....its what I was saying about it seeming like they are but she is only in there to pass the next egg.

The standard states that any ground colour spot on the back of the head or any odd ground colour feathers on any part of the body does not satisfy the requirements for any of the pied varieties

I dont believe so but others have said it is so. I am yet to be convinced that a budgie that looks like a normal in all respects and has a head patch is called a dominant pied ....I stand to be corrected just the same if anyone knows the facts.

A head patch on a spangle is commonly seen and on a spangle does not necessarily mean split for recessive pied The spangle often has a head spot on the back of its head and that is due to its dominant pied inheritance going way back into the first spangles bred using dominant pieds to acchieve spangles .

Hot days we are having make the birds look like this. Renee has some very good birds at home. I will try and help her photograph them and get them on here looking way better than these photos. :laughter:

Prolapse is more common in females over 4 years unfortunately :laughter: Eggs can be laid as early as 4-5 months ( but shouldnt be encouraged ) and after a female is 4 years and onwards they will get ideas in their heads about laying eggs all on their own. Try to think like a nesting female to problem solve and remove any large food dishes or paper on cage floor etc so she doesnt see it all as a potential nesting site and try and lay more eggs

Also an egg stays in limbo until constant incubation has begun. An egg can be fine for a week to ten days or so before incubation. A lot of people mistake the female going into the box to lay each egg with her incubating and getting on and off again and then they panic and think an egg needs warmth when it hasnt even begun to be incubated. They usually incubate once half a clutch is laid...around egg number three or so. :laughter:

I think I need to come over to your house and teach you how to take pictures that arent fuzzy and arent rushed. So we can actually see your birds at their best. A that time I will also bring your other camera and mine and we can do a post on your birds for BBC.Forgive me but it cannot be for a few more days. My sis in law is arriving for urgent medical tests and we will be busy. with regard to this.............I am just trying to help you figure out about a bird you say is in S.A. and you said it either wasnt yours or you dont recall it. It has your legring on so it must be yours.

Don't despair Shannon! Greywings and Clearwing varieties are completely different, a good Greywing can compete with a Normal dominant variety but Clearwings don't. :laughter: As much as I like the Blue series Greywings, this one is a ripper! and being split blue is an additional bonus too

For someone to do this Renee, you would have had to tell them where you offload your birds. To tell them where you offload your birds you would have had to talk to them face to face in the first place wouldnt you ? :laughter: Another show breeder would NOT go looking in a petshop for birds when they have so many contacts through the clubs they are in and access to auctions etc AND they pay higher prices at a petshop anyway and dont get any breeding details just the same. Better to go direct to a breeder for both a better price and details of the bird I say. and what is the "horrid surprise" ? Any bird I have that has faults or will not or cannot breed would not be onsold.

Heres some cool budgie stuff on a site in the UK http://www.zazzle.co.uk/budgies+gifts and budgie shoes :laughter: http://www.zazzle.co.uk/budgie+shoes

Ditto............same goes for me :laughter:

I will try, assuming they are in condition and have full tails etc :laughter:

You know how GREEN is a dominant thing in budgies ...........right ? A normal green budgie paired to a blue will give you green babies ( unless the green budgie is split to blue....i,e, had a blue parent ). That is a dominant gene.............GREEN is. BLUE is a recessive gene. The dominant mutations are: * Greens (All Forms) * Dominant Pieds * Greys * Clear-Flights * Violets * Spangles * Yellow Faces (to the blue series) * Crests The recessive mutations are: * Blues (All Forms) * Recessive Pieds * Fallows * Whites * Yellows * Greywings * Clearwings. NOW...........show us photos of these spots you are talking about on the chicks. Please explain finnie

It sounds like she may have had a partial prolapse in trying to lay her egg. That would account for what you are describing now. It should retract over the next day or so, but since you saw a vet for her treatment then the vet is the best one to alleviate your concerns right now. She shouldnt be laying eggs at this age anyway....was it something she did on her own or is their a male and nestbox in with her ?

I am sorry to hear about Buzby :question: He certainly was a handsome fellow wasnt he.

There is no such thing as SPLIT DOMINANT. A dominant gene is just that...its there or it isnt...its a visible thing.

Blue rings are now through till september after which is purple for 2011 but can be used the day you get them from Sept through till Jan and beyond.

Its here in this post Amy. The sequence of colours is on a 6 year cycle and just keep revolving. Rings will have a alphabetical code ( breeders code name ) or an uncoded ring has a club code.............there will be the number that relates to the actual bird, and sideways on the ring will be a symbol and a number relating to the year of hatching.