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Goodness me I have started enough controversy and upset on BBC forum by daring to say that parakeet is not the correct name of the budgerigar......on past topics. so I wouldnt touch this topic with a barge pole

When my sis in law was in hospital earlier in the week for tests she asked me to pick up a pack of cigs for her on my way in. Not being a smoker i was shocked at the price of them. More budgie money for me if I am not a smoker I say

Agree....................some kinds of advice we dont like to listen to despite it being best for the birds

Once you get to a point of making $4,000 upwards on a bird or two or three you are way over paying for their feed. But these breeders would also ay out that kind of money for an outcross I expect. Budgie money is budgie money in a lot of breeders viewpoints. Its back pocket money in most cases By the time you have got to that dollar value you would have spent a lot on your birds just getting there.

Quarantine in her own home is different. Its quarantine at your home that counts. Up to 5 metres away different room different airspace for 30 days minimum. You have misunderstood the essential principles of quarantine. Looks like a female to me.

i have taken a photo of the eggs. How do i put the picture on here? When i go to insert image it comes up that i have to enter a http address. Help please. Read in my signature....the link on how to post pictures. Here is my piccie of my hens first eggs. Do they look right? Great job posting the pictures Did you use a flash ? If so the colours arent natural and its hard to tell. I would hazard a guess and say fertile.....but a photo without flash is better.

I got a keyrack and hung it on the wall............its great. I remember to hang my keys on it some of the time and Ken never does

Some fo the top breeders of national winning status can sell some budgies in the $4,000 upwards range. At that stage they are making money.

Knew it

Wrong club, wrong people Dave.......move on....find a better place.

Best thing is fellowship with likeminded members. Access to additional breeders and breeding stock. Access to cheaper equipment through these clubs.

If that cage was lying on its side and wider rather than taller it would suit maybe two budgie at most if perches were set up so they could fly across the cage. As it is now it doesnt enable much flying space, just perch sidling and perch hopping.

Of course....once you have a reputation and birds of quality in show breeding............then you would make a decent amount of money from sales of birds. I was forgetting that aspect Maybe one day

emails re replies..............you will have to check your ticked boxes to see if you set it right for that function. Go into MY CONTROLS and EMAIL SETTINGS No quarantine for your new birds away from your others ?? Yellow hen..............seems it has been sexed incorrectly ? PICTURES please ?

i have taken a photo of the eggs. How do i put the picture on here? When i go to insert image it comes up that i have to enter a http address. Help please. Read in my signature....the link on how to post pictures.

Thats a lot of money.

I dont think anyone who has a large flock of budgies, and caring for them in the right way with all the best food and treatments, would ever make money out of them. I think that to make a business out of them you would have to care a little less, feed lesser foods, and breed constantly without a care to the birds welfare. I dont know anyone that would profit from breeding their birds and be doing all they can for the birds at the same time.

Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association October 1, 2003, Vol. 223, No. 7, Pages 993-998 doi: 10.2460/javma.2003.223.993 Assessment of plasma concentrations of doxycycline in budgerigars fed medicated seed or water Keven Flammer, DVM, DABVP Maureen M. Trogdon‌ Mark Papich, DVM, MS, DACVCP Department of Clinical Sciences, College of Veterinary Medicine, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, NC 27606. (Flammer, Trogdon); Present address is National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, PO Box 12233 MD CO-01, 111 TW Alexander Dr, Research Triangle Park, NC 27709. (Trogdon); Department of Molecular Biomedical Sciences, College of Veterinary Medicine, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, NC 27606. (Papich) Objective—To determine whether plasma doxycycline concentrations considered effective for treatment of avian chlamydiosis could be safely established and maintained in budgerigars via administration of doxycycline in water or seed. Design—Prospective study. Animals—68 healthy mature budgerigars. Procedure—In 14-day trials, plasma doxycycline concentrations were measured in budgerigars provided with water containing 0, 50, 100, 200, or 400 mg of doxycycline hyclate/L or a hulled seed diet containing 0, 100, 200, or 400 mg of doxycycline hyclate/kg. On the basis of these results, birds were fed seed containing 300 mg of doxycycline/kg for 42 days, and a control group received unmedicated seed. Blood samples for plasma doxycycline analysis were collected either in the morning on treatment days 4, 7, 14, 21, 28, 35, and 42 or in the afternoon on days 12, 26, and 40. Birds were observed daily. On days 14, 28, and 42, physical and plasma biochemical variables, PCV, and total solids concentration were measured; cloacal specimens were obtained for bacteriologic and fungal culture. Results—During a 14-day period, treatment with water containing ≤ 400 mg of doxycycline/L did not maintain plasma doxycycline concentrations of ≥ 1 μg/mL, but seed containing 300 mg of doxycycline hyclate/kg maintained mean plasma doxycycline concentrations > 0.98 μg/mL for 42 days without notable adverse effects. Conclusions and Clinical Relevance—Results suggest that hulled seed containing 300 mg of doxycycline hyclate/kg can safely establish and maintain plasma doxycycline concentrations that are considered adequate for treatment of chlamydiosis in adult nonbreeding budgerigars. (J Am Vet Med Assoc 2003; 223:993–998)

Seed----------------Carbohydrates----- Fats-------Proteins--------Salt & Minerals Canary seed--------56.0----------------6. 1---------15.1--------------2.1 Millet----------------59.8----------------3.7----------11.1--------------3.1 Linseed-------------22.3----------------34.2---------21.5--------------5.6 Oats----------------59.7----------------4.9-----------10.4--------------2.8 percentages *****Additional trivia..................if weevils get into your seed storage, did you know there is one seed they wont touch at all ? and it is Japanese millet.

I have vivid memories of finding birds hung by such things.....therefore I am super vigilant now about the possible dangers

This is what I meant when I said laft it longer to trim between beak trimmings :rofl: I was referring to the four weeks.

The Challenge by Gerald Binks currently on EBAY http://cgi.ebay.com.au/The-Challenge-Breed...=item1c0ff049b0

Lots of action at that park of yours :rofl:

There's that toy and still long enough to hang a budgie. I lost 2-3 that way.

I was under the imrpession the longer you leave it go between trimming, the longer beak gets a blood supply further down into the beak. If this is true then leaving it too long between trims may not be a good thing.